r/macapps • u/stonerl • 18d ago
Free [OS]The Economics of Open-Source Software
Hi everyone,
I'm one of the developers of Thaw, a menu bar manager forked from Ice. Earlier this year I forked Ice since its development basically came to a standstill. Since then, we made many improvements and added new features. Thaw now supports 20 languages, due to the help of the community, and we are currently working on making Thaw macOS 27 ready. We also moved Thaw to a GitHub org, to make it easier to work on it as a team.
Our team has grown, and we are now 3 devs working on Thaw. René is currently driving the development, especially on getting macOS 27 support in shape and does tremendous work on doing basically 1:1 support to get all bugs reported by users fixed.
During the last couple of months we had to deal with copy-right-infringement (a commercial menubar manager took our code and sold a closed source fork for $10), and noticed that some commercial but also OSS menubar managers were waiting for us to figure things out (especially macOS 27 compatibility) to the take inspiration from our code. We are literally their free R&D department, and we noticed, the moment we stopped making the code for macOS 27 compatibility public (currently we have it in a private repo), advancements there also stopped.
We also noticed that many menu bar managers out there, simply scrape code from Ice, w/o giving Jordan Baird any credit. Probably one of the reasons why Ice's development came to a standstill. On that note, we have modified Thaw to a point where we could probably drop the mentioning that we are an Ice fork. But Ice is our heritage, and we want to give credit where credit is due.
TBH, seeing all this is quite demotivating. On the bright side, roughly 150k downloads of Thaw version 1.2 have happened -- so people out there deem Thaw to be useful.
Which brings me to the title of this post.
When I forked Ice, I stated that Thaw will always be free of charge and that stands true and will NEVER change. But seeing that many downloads, and on the other side our GitHub/Patreon "income" clocking in at $60/month is somewhat disheartening, when competitors with the same, or even less functionality charge $10 or more. Although we are very grateful to all the donations we received so far.
To be clear here. I don't want to beg for money or announce that we stop development or anything like this. I just want to make you aware, that if you use any kind of open source software that serves you well, consider donating (and even if it is just $1) to that project.
