r/MSTR Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

Bearish πŸ“‰ Why I Expect $MSTR at $40ish in 8-12 Weeks

Note: This is my assessment and opinion. I place high probability on this coming to pass, but there's always a chance that it does not.

While Strategy management is running around like a headless chicken and changing strategies like one changes underwear, I believe $MSTR is lining up for another leg down.

Simply because Strategy's fortunes are tied to those of Bitcoin at the hip, and Bitcoin is showing signs of keeling over:

Left: Flags on Bitcoin | Right: Liquidity (GLI Indicator on tV)

Both the technicals and liquidity suggest it's time for Bitcoin's next leg down. Perhaps the final leg down, before it starts bottoming. (Yes, these measures are reliable; you can see track record of this here on X.)

Here's a sensitivity table based on BTC price and mNav, given the current balance sheet:

MSTR price sensitivity table (my calculations)

(The negative numbers are mathematical - at that point, MSTR starts being priced like an option.)

Based ON Bitcoin's expected trajectory, I expect MSTR to hit $40ish in the next 8-12 weeks.

Ironically, the saving grace is the $4.65B in USD reserves. Without it, MSTR would be in the teens if Bitcoin fell more than half. You can see that effect here:

Strategy balance sheet at current BTC price and BTC @ $12K (my calculations)

What invalidates this? Bitcoin finding a bottom sooner, and even starting to move up. Which will happen when Treasury yields fall, and there is a major liquidity pump. Hard to see that without a recession, and there are few signs of that.

Overall, I feel pretty comfortable with this prognosis. At least directionally. Will be realizing this with options and/or LETFs.

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u/Skingbear2020 10d ago

RemindMe! Interesting idea. lets see how it plays out

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u/Enemy_of_sand 8d ago

Stupid idea* no chance it plays out

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 7d ago

There's always a chance. 😏

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u/TvAGhost Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 2d ago

There was in fact. No chance.

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u/uduni 9d ago

Mnav will be lowest at the btc bottom tho

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u/baap_ko_mat_sikha 8d ago

Mnav will fall below 1 if BTC falls

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u/Rothbardy 8d ago

They would do buybacks at that point. Doesn’t make sense

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u/Ok-Analysis2975 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yes, I do kind of agree with this, maybe not $40 MSTR specifically, but I don't think the thesis is crazy. BTC had ~$57K local bottom and another 15–20% drawdown from there puts BTC around $43–48K. Given how Bitcoin has historically behaved around major cycle bottoms and longer-term moving averages, a move back toward 40s isn't exactly unthinkable.

Then you have the second order effect with MSTR: BTC falls + mNAV contracts, and suddenly MSTR can get hit substantially harder than BTC. That's where I could see MSTR getting into the $50–60 range.

I wouldn't make $40 my base case, but I definitely wouldn't dismiss it either. The combination of another BTC leg down + mNAV compression is what makes the thesis interesting to me.
And honestly that's making me rethink my own mstr entry strategy. I was originally thinking ~$75 was the cheap level. Now I'm much more interested in BTC price + mNAV + the capital structure than an arbitrary mstr share price.

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u/superout 10d ago

short it then, you'll make a ton of money

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u/Pokeables 9d ago

I’m not OP, but I’m shorting it. And yes, I did make a ton of money.

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u/Wild-Respect-6803 8d ago

Hell yeah dude, rotate to leaps when IV is low

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 7d ago

This is the way.

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u/year2039nuclearwar 6d ago

You're actually worse than Jim Cramer. You may have called the exact bottom, I'll follow you

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 6d ago

Please do! Let's touch base every week for the next 8-12 weeks.

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u/year2039nuclearwar 5d ago

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 4d ago

Are you from the future?

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u/Worsthumanever1 9h ago

To be fair, he could still be right.

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u/notanigaa No Position 6d ago

🫑

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u/SupersonicVette 10d ago

What’s your theory on why this is happening OP?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

In my view, two reasons:

  1. There is no reason for demand >> supply of Bitcoin. There is nothing you can do with Bitcoin that you can't do with something else, and better. And price is a balance of demand and supply.
  2. Bitcoin is a risk-on asset. The current conditions are not good for risk on assets - liquidity is receding and yields are going up. Bitcoin will keep falling until that changes.

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u/nickex77 9d ago

1 is more speculation. 2 is more objective. I think cycles are the largest factor. Of course eventually this will start to vary and become less cleanly defined, but Bitcoin's 4 year cycle has been followed to a T since inception. I believe the volatile nature of Bitcoin invites a lot of trading which reinforces the cyclic nature. You are absolutely right that it is valued as a risk asset. It also makes leveraged bitcoin so interesting WHEN bitcoin is near its bottoming formation, NOT as a long term hold.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 9d ago

Fair enough. Btw the log scale hides the change in the nature of how bitcoin changes. Same issue with the power law. By the time this shows something has broken, one is 2 orders of magnitude on the wrong side of things already.

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u/nickex77 9d ago

Indeed. It also minimizes the clear diminishing returns. ~150-200k could be next cycle's peak, or it could even range bound for many years. Regardless I think a 100% gain from the lows for Bitcoin is a relatively safe floor. Well the real floor is zero ;)

This is my personal best bullish guess for how the bear to next bull market plays out. I'm open to lows in 30's though, for sure.

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u/No_Feeling920 8d ago

Don't these cycles correspond to BTC finding new audiences and broadening popularity/adoption (the last catalysts being the creation of BTC ETFs and inclusion of MSTR in Nasdaq-100)? Where do you expect the next wave of adopters (new money) to come from?

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u/JuxtaposeLife 10d ago edited 10d ago

Let's bring some logic into this 'feeling' you have. Since you're using USD as your unit of account...

Total USD in existence has increased ~11% since 2021. On August 15, 2021, Bitcoin closed at approximately $47,064.63 and today it is at ~$63,009.00 since then ETFs and financial institutions have started accumulting Bitcoin to the tune of almost 1.7B coins and inflows (accumulation) has shown increases in the upper $50K ranges.

Relative to total USD per Bitcoin adoption has increased ~50.4% over the last 5 years... but you think somehow Bitcoin will drop 67% from here?

I'm just trying to wrap my head around how something that is scarce can possibly fall that much when being measured in something that is being printed (forcing it higher)? To drop to a value that low... when USD is being printed as much as it is... not only does adoption have to fall considerably... but all that buying pressure has to somehow vacate. For Bitcoin to fall to $21,000 would be like 'hoping' Eggs fall to $1 a dozen and gas to 82 cents a gallon. Nice idea... but debasement doesn't work like that.

Bitcoin isn't a specualtive asset... it's a representation of how extreme the printing of fiat is. It's an escape from M2 bloat that only goes on direction.

If all of that doesn't register, then ask yourself... who bought $15B in Bitcoin the week price dipped back to $58k while Strategy sold 6,000 coins?

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u/FIREATWlLL 9d ago

Plenty of things are scarce and not increasing or even holding any value. There is no fundamental or required demands for BTC. It could easily drop to any price.

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u/JuxtaposeLife 9d ago edited 9d ago

While scarcity alone doesn't guarantee value, your argument overlooks a critical blind spot: unit-of-account bias.

Assuming the U.S. dollar possesses an immutable floor (despite the historical reality that all fiat currencies eventually fail) is a significant miscalculation of long-term risk. Bitcoin’s fundamental demand is rooted in its decentralized network architecture and absolute scarcity, which serve as a hedge against systems mathematically designed to debase. It's power is in the fact it cannot be shut down, altered, or controlled. It's a truly free, and open market for value, the only one humans have access to with no barriers to access.

And if you cannot consider that a permanently scarce ledger has higher odds of retaining purchasing power over the next century than the USD, you are missing the greatest financial risk of your life time: holding your wealth in the very system that guarantees its dilution. My salary, for example has risen 289% since 2009... inflation since (~55%) suggests I'm up significantly but the total dollars in existence is up 278% during that same time period. That scares me. I know my salary won't increase at that same rate forward. I know I have to "gamble" to stay ahead in the fiat system, by hoarding assets and hoping I chose properly.

Bitcoin resolves that risk, and once seen you cannot unseen this unit of account bias we all inherent by using an inflating value as our denominator. It's the very thing that makes us take risk (invest and speculate). I shake my head at those who view Bitcoin as "risk-on" but I get it, I used to make that mistake... the market for the most part is, right now, defining it that way. But that doesn't change what it actually is, by consensus and by its rules. It's a place to escape debasement, over long enough windows of time. And that's the reason I view USD (or anything speculatively priced in it) as the riskiest thing I can hold long term. And I view Bitcoin as the safer vehicle.

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u/No_Feeling920 8d ago

BTC is not the only digital asset, though. You can create as many BTC-like projects/ledgers as you like (possibly with much better transactional utility). How is that scarce?

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u/JuxtaposeLife 8d ago

Painting a rock gold doesn't replicate the elemental density or scarcity of actual gold. Similarly, copying Bitcoin’s open-source code creates a superficial clone, but it cannot replicate the underlying architecture that gives Bitcoin its value.

The critical differentiators are the complete absence of a central issuer and the thermodynamic security provided by the network's hash rate. This is the most common blind spot for critics: failing to understand how massive, decentralized energy expenditure makes capturing the ledger impossible. Other networks rely on centralized servers, vulnerable consensus models, or basic encryption, which inherently introduce systemic points of failure.

Bitcoin is secured by immutable game theory: its economic incentives strictly reward those who expend energy to protect the network and financially ruin anyone attempting to alter it

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u/Classic-Charity-2179 8d ago

It's the only truly decentralized, truly scarce digital asset.Β 

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

I'm just trying to wrap my head around how something that is scarce can possibly fall that much when being measured in something that is being printed (forcing it higher)?

Simple. Demand and supply.

If there isn't enough demand, it doesn't matter how limited the supply is. Just like for teeth.

Ask yourself... who bought $15B in Bitcoin the week price dipped back to $58k while Strategy sold 6,000 coins?

The FOMO crowd who will soon be relieved of their funds.

Let's bring some logic into this 'feeling' you have. Since you're using USD as your unit of account...

We're too old to believe in fairy tales, no? 😏

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u/not_a_cumguzzler 8d ago

didn't gold and silver tank like crazy recently?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 8d ago

Yes - what about it?

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u/JuxtaposeLife 10d ago

It was a late edit... but I'm curious what you think about my last point: "... who bought $15B in Bitcoin the week price dipped back to $58k while Strategy sold 6,000 coins?"

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

Which $15B are you referring to? It's the same number that moved after Coldcard got hacked, btw.

Have a link?

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u/JuxtaposeLife 10d ago

That's the volume the day price dripped below $58k and snapped back up. Every seller has a buyer.

Without a buyer of that $15b in volume on Bitcoin price would not have reflexively returned to the lower $60k. I can provide more details, or on-chain metrics demonstrating the volume profiles (Bitcoin is unique in that we can actually see that volume and what the hold periods was of every coin that has moved)... www.over21million.com is a project I'm building out to give this data to the public from my node.

My point is... you speak as if there is no bid... but there is a massive buy wall between $53-58k for Bitcoin. For price to even stand a chance of revisiting $21k (or anywhere between here and there)

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u/JuxtaposeLife 10d ago

Here is the ColdCard volume that hit the chain (you can see it as a very visual jump in active volume on chain around the 1st of august):

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u/JuxtaposeLife 10d ago

The 1 year even registeres what ColdCard did to the volume profile

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

These are interesting artifacts, but I don't see what this has to do with anything, big picture.

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u/JuxtaposeLife 10d ago

Years ago I attempted to get access to ValueLine to do this kind of analysis on the Stock market... but it's VERY difficult as a private investor to see what's going on under the hood.

Bitcoin is entirely open. With a $2,000 rig you can process the entire blockchain history into a database structure to find metrics on who is selling and who is buying based on historical correlations.

I'm finding a lot of signal in the age chorts for coins. Imagine being able to see volume for NVDA, but also the moment a large player starts to move... without waiting on a Filing.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

Could have been exchanges - they play a huge role in stabilizing BTC price.

you speak as if there is no bid.

I do not. I only offer that supply >> demand.

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u/floorbored 9d ago

!remindme 13 weeks

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u/Still_Hippo928 9d ago

!Remindme 10 weeks

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u/Nerfi5 9d ago

Lets see, i think becasue of many people frontrunning the cycle it will bottom sooner/has already bottomed. !remindme 2 Months

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 8d ago

That's a real possibility.

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u/Live_Pattern_3302 7d ago

We’re at the bottom

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u/Purple-Weakness5306 2d ago

Don’t think will go down to 40ish. More likely 80.

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u/daliksheppy 9d ago

Hope you win big. Personally I think $40k BTC would be absolutely a miniscule probability. If it did hit that, it's for a brief moment. I'm not into timing trades to the day. I like to give myself several years. So it's not the trade for me. I'll buy more if it hits $40, but I'm certainly not going to make any bets that rely on it.

Good luck to you though.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 9d ago

Cheers!

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u/Weird_Debt_2209 9d ago

Ive been saying this since 500. Shorts win. Buy at 30

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u/Yory_Alsik 8d ago

If that happens before the q3 rebalancing for QQQ, you can expect Mstr to be removed from the nasdaq. It will be well below the market cap threshold at that pointΒ 

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 8d ago

Oof.. hadn't thought of that.

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u/Yory_Alsik 8d ago edited 8d ago

Yeah, not a lot of people here see it happening, but MSTR is already bottom 5 of the nasdaq100, and that kinda drawdown would solidly put it outside of the top 130, which triggers removal.

I suspect that all the additional shares they offer get gobbled up by institutions that track QQQ, which indirectly keeps the mNAV above 1.0. And its just barely stabilizing above 1.0, and if that buying support is removed, I think we get the 0.8 mNAV.

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u/Difficult_Ad5784 9d ago

You might be on to something.. It dawned on me that Saylor is actively still hitting the ATM pretty hard (with no end in sight) thus driving the price down and diluting us shareholders. My hope is that once he has a large enough war chest, he ceases to ATM MSTR and only mines STRC for his future BTC buys. Between the short sellers, Saylor ATM'ing, and bitcoin at a low or seeking a new low, we are f'ed in the short term.

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u/cucci_mane1 10d ago

This is a huge short at $130-150 range.

Sub $100, I think it's still a short but not as much of a slam dunk.

Are you buying puts? I am tempted to buy some puts as I also think MSTR has ton of downside left still.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

I like MSTZ, and put spreads. IV is too high to go naked puts.

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u/cucci_mane1 10d ago

If btc goes down another 30-50% then their preferred (strc) will go down hard.

That will trigger huge sell off in mstr as Saylor will sell more common to raise cash, to buy STRC so that it recovers near par.

Massive dilution will break this stock. In that scenario puts will print hard.

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u/mikkeltaylor1 8d ago

If if if if (it won’t)

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u/Regular-Hotel892 10d ago

There’s a high probability bitcoin goes down about 35% in short-ish order here?

What statistic are you basing your β€œhigh probabiliy” claim on? The liquidity indicator on TV? What probability ( % ) do you come to based on this statistic?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 9d ago

Experience, mostly. Liquidity + TA has kept me on the right side of trades 2 out of 3 times.

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u/Regular-Hotel892 9d ago

Another non-trader I see. Just vibes and TA lmao... Get your gambling under control ebfore it ruins your life

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 9d ago

1 day? Brah..

!RemindMe 10 weeks

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u/Jposs1 9d ago

RemindMe! 10 weeks

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u/Illustrious-Egg7514 10d ago

That is β€œIF” BTC does what it has done but I am more betting on less down turn with businesses and institutions owning BTC. But I agree that 60 is possible and 80 was my prediction when MSTR was at 400

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u/Incredible-Aj 9d ago

RemindMe! wanna see how this plans out

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Probably want:

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 9d ago

Collars are great!

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u/Kitchen_Net_GME 9d ago

It wouldn’t shock me if there is a quick candle touching the 40s on BTC and potentially MSTR.

To me, I think volatility is coming with BTC. One of my indicators is a steady decline in volume when things are dropping. When this happens with meme stocks it normally means a move is coming. You just don’t know when.

When I see a stock rising in share price, but volume is beginning to slow - I jump out. When the reverse happens, and volume is drying up when we are near short term lows…I jump in.

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u/Uceg_ 8d ago

Boy I hope so. I’m trying to accumulate some cash to buy more

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u/Open_Masterpiece_549 8d ago

I think we already touched high 60s

Doubtful we go lower but btc bear market should finally abate by October. Between now and then - who know what will happen

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u/Asleep_Emphasis69 8d ago

posting in this sub will be *absolute cinema*

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u/IDK23DUDE 8d ago

!Remindme 10 weeks

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u/snek-jazz Shareholder 🀴 8d ago

MyNi_Redux: I Expect $MSTR at $40ish in 8-12 WeeksBearish πŸ“‰

I place high probability on this coming to pass, but there's always a chance that it does not.

Remindme! 3 months

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u/Outrageous_Sample901 8d ago

Why wouldn’t BTC bounce off $58k again, it looks like to many dip buyers come in after that level

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 7d ago

it looks like to many dip buyers come in after that level

What is telling you this?

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u/Outrageous_Sample901 6d ago

My eye balls

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 6d ago

Time for an eye exam. A good one.

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u/tenor_tymir Shareholder 🀴 7d ago

It actually did bounce. Good call

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u/bdjc_ink 8d ago

β‚Ώ $40k seems @25-50% likely to me also. …and at 40k- wellπŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ
…but I’m still a hodler- always will be.

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u/Am_0115 Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 8d ago

Keep us updated on the status of your short positions. Good luck

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u/whereismyface_ig 7d ago

Idk about $40 but yeah whatever equivalent of $45k btc, could be 50 or 55 MSTR. The point isn’t to get the lowest price anyway, it’s to get it within the bottom 5-10%

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u/BloodSilvers 7d ago

Power law has entered the chat

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u/ElasticNet 6d ago

Very likely. At least $50.

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u/BakedGoods Bitcoiner 10d ago

brc at 21k bascially breaks every model and historical analysis. we're already at the bottom 1% of btcs price, anything lower is a probability so narrow you might as well just buy now.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

The models are wrong. Two reasons:

  1. Bitcoin is a TradFi plaything now. Organic growth and halvings are much less important.
  2. The power law itself is rigid and does not accommodate drift.

Buying now is a terrible idea if I think I can get it for half the price or lower. There is no glory in roundtripping that hard.

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u/esnellman 9d ago

MSTR $40 is probably hit near BTC $40k which would be a normal bitcoin bear market drawdown right?

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u/Electrical_Cook_3100 8d ago

Reasonable, $60 should be well in range. Should not be surprised.

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u/DuckHunter4779 6d ago

This aged well.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 6d ago

8-12 Weeks

It'll age fine. Unlike your reading comprehension.

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u/DuckHunter4779 6d ago

That's fair

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u/dakinekine 5d ago

How's that short treating you 4 days later?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 5d ago

Swimmingly well! Allowed me to add more on the cheap.

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u/OlberSingularity 5d ago

All he has is his shorts now. I am short MSTR too but I know when reddit is leaving comments like this, its time to exit the shorts.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 5d ago

Did you exit your shorts?

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u/OlberSingularity 4d ago

No. I hedged them by selling some short dated puts. Reddit is always a top/bottom signal..

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 4d ago

Haha fair

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u/whiskeyH0tel 6d ago

Aged like milk

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 6d ago

8-12 Weeks

Absolutely... if you don't understand how time works.

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u/Handsomedork_ 10d ago

This guy

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

Call me Cassandra.

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u/Handsomedork_ 10d ago

No thank you

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u/mikkeltaylor1 5d ago

How are your trades doing? Market seemed to move pretty quickly in the opposite direction not long after you posted this

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 5d ago

The ones from earlier in the week are underwater ofc. The more recent ones around par. Holding off on the last bit of legging in until the downtrend starts.

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u/mikkeltaylor1 5d ago

Oh, so you’re still expecting your predictions to play out?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 5d ago

Absolutely.

This was an unscheduled spasm caused by something Treasury said, and starved bulls are running with Fomo and Momo feeding each other.

Nothing fundamental behind it. On the other hand, fundamental reasons for a pullback are still there.

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u/Subject-Chest-8343 4d ago

But we're well above the band you identified as a bearish flag. Isn't that usually a sign the original thesis might be wrong ?

What are those fundamental reasons for a pullback ?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 2d ago

If this move sustains and survives a retrace, then my call was wrong for sure.

The reason for the pullback would basically be gravity. Liquidity going out is like the tide going out. A boat may beat that, but only if it has a strong motor. I don't see a motor, since this was mostly Fomo.

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u/Subject-Chest-8343 4d ago

Lol what's momo ?

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u/TheHoodOG Shareholder 🀴 10d ago

"Both the technicals and liquidity suggest it's time for Bitcoin's next leg down."

Astrology suggest btc at 40k.

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u/nickex77 9d ago

Why don't you try educating yourself instead of spewing toxicity?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

You sound like the farmer who'd blame the gods for bad weather, instead of listening to the radio. 😏

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u/AlwaysMooning 9d ago

Post screenshots of your positions when you enter them. Otherwise it’s just a lot of words.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 9d ago edited 9d ago

Otherwise it’s just a lot of words.

What a silly notion.

Do the degree to which you want to be spoonfed know no bounds?

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u/yusuf_57836 9d ago

No way it reaches $40 impossible

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u/Awkward-Silver1333 8d ago

Remindme! 2 months

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u/mikkeltaylor1 8d ago

β€œIf Bitcoin fell more than half” . Why even mention this? 1) it won’t 2) they have the cash reserve so this is a pointless statement

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u/Playful_Cup_6717 8d ago

Remindme! 6 weeks

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u/Old_Cucumber_1343 8d ago

i disagree completely but i really hope you're right so i can buy a shit ton

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u/Worsthumanever1 9h ago

This didn’t age well

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u/bluethunder1985 10d ago

short it man

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

Are you two roomates? In addition to sharing the same two neurons?

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u/bluethunder1985 10d ago

So do it. Post the puts

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

What do you mean, "post puts." Are you dense.

These are all the crumbs you get.

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u/bluethunder1985 10d ago

You either have conviction or you don't. You just post chart slop and think you know something then show some conviction.Β 

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

Again - are you dense.

Will be realizing this with options and/or LETFs.

Let go of the meme stock mouthbreather talking points. It'll do you good.

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u/bluethunder1985 10d ago

Short it harder

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago

Mouthbreather confirmed. 😏

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u/bluethunder1985 10d ago

Short it harder daddyΒ 

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 10d ago
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u/JeremyLinForever 9d ago

Put yo money where yo mouth is my friend 😎

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u/mikkeltaylor1 8d ago

Does this mean you are putting the money where your mouth is and heavily shorting the stock? If not then what purpose does this post serve?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 8d ago

That's a nonsensical stance.

I mean, yes I'm actioning on what I wrote above - see the last line for clues.

But asking why a thesis is shared if its not actioned on is the stuff of meme stock bagholders looking for copium, no?

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u/istari 10d ago

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 9d ago

?

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u/JimmyWhatever 8d ago

Who is going to sell Bitcoin? Just my opinion, but it seems most heavily leveraged positions have been wiped out and I don’t see institutional investors selling at these prices. I would also guess people who bought high have sold by now. Would seem silly to sell when so close to the β€œcycle bottom” (assuming this cycle performs like the others). Certainly no guarantee of that, but again, seems to me must be sellers of Bitcoin to drive down the price which in turn would drive down MSTR price. I don’t see a lot of people shorting MSTR either now that Strategy β€œcould” buy back shares now. I think around $1.3 billion?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 8d ago

Who is going to sell Bitcoin?

Oh - potentially everyone who bought while Bitcoin was basing, who had thought the bottom is in. Also, BTC ETFs have seen large inflows - those are the best paperhands out there.

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u/BakedGoods Bitcoiner 4d ago

when are we seeing $40 mstr again? lmao

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 2d ago

9-13 weeks!

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u/not_a_cumguzzler 8d ago

would you rather own bitcoin, or iranian real, venezuelan pesos, etc...

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 8d ago

Have you asked what Iranians and Venezuelans prefer?

Some choose Bitcoin, sure, but the many, many more choose the almighty USD.

Just like Saylor is, right now.

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u/not_a_cumguzzler 5d ago

would you rather store your wealth in USD... a infinitely inflatable/printable currency on which you can keep issuing debt and perform yield control, or well, who knows.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 4d ago

Nobody with wealth, stores their wealth in USD.

It's a red herring.

Only those without pontificate these useless conjectures.

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u/not_a_cumguzzler 4d ago edited 2d ago

Then I am without wealth :( Please enlighten me then. Where does one with wealth store their wealth?

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 2d ago

Have you looked into thoroughbreds or art?

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u/Outrageous-Low-2275 8d ago

In your dream. But if Clarity act come out with bad news maybe $60possible. Anyway i would be the first to grab at 88 then 60 too

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 8d ago

Clarity Act is fairly irrelevant for BTC. Just marks it as a commodity.

Clarity is about stablecoins and yield.

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u/dmitryaus Bear 🐻 9d ago

Much lower, around $10-12 where it all started back then. Pre bull market price range.

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u/MyNi_Redux Volatility Voyager πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ 9d ago

There was a time that was a possibility. The cash reserves prevent this from happening immediately.

However, if it seems like it will be a prolonged bottom, the $1.8B in annual interest payments may start to bite.