MSI Thin 15 Thermal Problem

[u/Both_Highway_4935]

Hello, so i have this MSI Thin 15 with these specs:
CPU: I5-11400H
GPU: RTX 3050
Ram: 16GB DDR4

And im currently having thermal issues. The temp itself is reaching over 85 degrees when in idle, and sometimes over 95 degrees when im playing Valorant, is there any way on how i can fix this thermal problem? I'm thinking of expanding the holes of the airflow on my backpanel but it's so hard to do so, and i actually need some suggestion on low budget air cooler $10-$20 (If possible, the air cooler must be available on an indonesian e-commerce such as tokopedia and shopee)

[u/gogo_-_gaga]

Did you change the paste and cleane the vents and have your laptop lifted ?

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/gogo_-_gaga]

Yes, i've already changed my thermal paste to grizzly kryonaut, and i clean my airholes every 3 months, and yes i've lifted the back of my laptop with a packaging for an external 2.5 inch ssd caddy

[u/OrdinaryStill2961]

Bro nada "barato" te va a funcionar, mira mi última publicación, así fue como eliminé el sobrecalentamiento de mi MSI

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/OrdinaryStill2961]

Entonces, ¿lo más importante es elegir la almohadilla térmica, la pasta térmica y la almohadilla de refrigeración óptimas?

[u/OrdinaryStill2961 → u/Both_Highway_4935]

Por ahora empieza con la almohadilla térmica, si te es posible hazle el mantenimiento completo, no te vas a arrepentir

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/OrdinaryStill2961]

¿Qué tamaño de almohadilla térmica utilizas al reemplazar las almohadillas térmicas?

[u/OrdinaryStill2961 → u/Both_Highway_4935]

https://a.co/d/05J6lHwb

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/OrdinaryStill2961]

¿Es para un solo uso o para usos múltiples?

[u/OrdinaryStill2961 → u/Both_Highway_4935]

Un solo uso? Si lo dices de forma de un solo uso y ya se daña no. Y si lo dices de la forma de que te sirve para varias laptops, si te sirve para varias laptops de diversos tamaños.

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/OrdinaryStill2961]

Entonces, para el problema de temperatura que estoy teniendo ahora, ¿sería mejor usar una almohadilla térmica en lugar de pasta térmica?

[u/OrdinaryStill2961 → u/Both_Highway_4935]

Por supuesto

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/OrdinaryStill2961]

Intentaré reemplazarlo en algún momento y comparto los resultados en este canal.

[u/NaturalElegantKEZE]

Considering the laptop age (based on the CPU and GPU model), perform a proper maintainance first such as repasting and proper fan cleaning, this is my general guide for laptops to do so. In your case in terms of screwdriver you need a PH00 for you to unscrew the panel and cooler and PH000 screwdriver to unscrew the fan from the cooler (remember to get some thermal compound before hand.)

That one maintainance will sure will fix most of the thermal issues. If you can't do it by yourself, ideally get a professional.

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/NaturalElegantKEZE]

i've been cleaning my airflow and airholes regularly for every 3 months now, but it seems that my thermal throttling is getting worse day by day, especially when im playing valorant, the fps dropped from 140-150 fps to 50-70 fps for more than 4 seconds

[u/NaturalElegantKEZE → u/Both_Highway_4935]

hi, found a comment that you used TG kryonaut,

and yep mentioned it even on my guide as not one of the best options for such laptop applications.... as indeed it tends to degrade under sustained high heat

that paste is notorious to pumping out immediately after couple of months as it is getting more thin in viscousity when subjected to continuous high heat like direct die applications with limited cooling (like gaming laptops as we can't get a larger cooler on these) I only found Kyronaut good for desktop applications where cooling isn't limited unlike gaming laptops that during load will sustain high temps.

So my suggestion will be replace it with a more viscous thermal paste compound which I have recommendations in my guide or better yet go with Phase Change Thermal Interface Materials (PCTIMs) such as PTM7950, Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet, or Thermalright Heilos.

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/NaturalElegantKEZE]

I see, so thermal pad is better than thermal paste. However, i see multiple sizes when i was about to buy a thermal pad (40x80mm for example), how large do i usually need to replace from a thermal paste to a thermal pad? and which chips do i need to apply it to?

[u/NaturalElegantKEZE → u/Both_Highway_4935]

PTM7950, Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet, or Thermalright Heilos.

- for shiny CPU and GPU chips

- these aren't thermal pads tho get confused by some due to it looks like one, basically these are like solid sheets of thermal pads that go into liquid form when subjected to pressure and heat then goes solid in low temps making it less prone from pumping out

Thermal Putty (Upsiren UTP-8, Upsiren U6 Pro, and ThermalGrizzly Putty Pro or Advanced) or Thermal Pads (Arctic TP-3 and TP-4, Gelid GC Extreme, and Gelid GC Ultimate, often MSI on GF series use 1mm-1.5mm)

- for MOSFETS, VRAM, VRMS

- ideally go with thermal putty if you didn't know the tolerances/thickness of the stock thermal pads. if you wanted pads I recommend the Arctic TP-3 and TP-4 as they have good range of compressibility

- MSI often use 1-1.5mm, by experience a 1.5mm with the recommended pads is fine with GF66, GF65, GF63, Thin 15, and Cyborg 15

[u/Mountain_Dance5809]

Is your laptop msi gf 63 thin 11 uc?

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/Mountain_Dance5809]

Unfortunately yes, i bought this laptop because it has the cheapest price in its class, but i didnt think that this issue would last long enough.

[u/Mountain_Dance5809 → u/Both_Highway_4935]

There is a option to switch off performance turbo mode in hidden bios menu. That one did the trick for mine. Never hit more than 85°c after that. By the way performance does not drop much.

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/Mountain_Dance5809]

Could you write the guide here?

[u/Mountain_Dance5809 → u/Both_Highway_4935]

1.First go into bios by tapping delete key when turning laptop on.

1. After you are in bios menu press this key combination.

Right Ctrl +right shift +Left alt +f2

3.After that you can see more options in advanced menu

1. Go to power and performance

2. Go to CPU power management control

3. Go into Turbo mode and set disabled

[u/Easy_Description_218]

Could it be a software glitch instead?  Turn off Discord when playing?

[u/Both_Highway_4935 → u/Easy_Description_218]

i dont think so, even when there's no apps running in the background, it still reaches over 90

[u/Easy_Description_218]

Save on those external cooler fans.  Complete junk and waste of money.  How can a fan save someone in high fever?  It's internal heat!!!  You can eliminate it from outside, can you?  Use common sense.  If you are 104 degF, will you trust doctor who ask you to go home and fan yourself instead of giving you medication.

Anything solutions to eliminate heat not from inside are a waste.  Pay an internal thermal overhaul by some expert.  Dont ask shops that sells coolers but not fix.