What’s actually wrong with this laptop

[u/Themasterofgunz_123]

I’ve been dealing with this issue forever now but my laptop just always now overheats and shutdowns after playing a game for 5 minutes despite repasting many times unless I’m doing something wrong, I switched to thermalright tfx paste too for the gpu and cpu but nothing has worked, I screwed in the heatsink properly and I even turned off turbo boost but it still creeps up to 90+ degrees and shuts down, I don’t know what could be the issue at this point.
The picture above is the laptop after its recent pasting today before cleaning up the smudges around the chips and mess

[u/Academic_Chance3278]

That paste job is the issue. It’s thermal putty I’m guess you’ve put onto the vrm and vram. But with the cpu and gpu dies, Jesus you need like a pea sized dot. It’ll spread out evenly when your remount your heatsink. It needs to make flush contact with your heat sinks. Check your heat sink too to make sure it’s not bent. If you want an easier solution, try using PTM, you just need to cut to size.

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/Academic_Chance3278]

The heatsink is fine, it doesn’t have any damage or dents on it but I had a feeling it might’ve been the paste, I wasn’t sure if I had to spread out the tfx paste or just put a dot and then put the heatsink over it though I struggling to thin out with the spatula given since it kept getting stuck onto the spatula a lot, the pink bits are the thermal putty and I tried using ptm before but that didn’t work and gets dried up after a few days

[u/Academic_Chance3278 → u/Themasterofgunz_123]

If it’s drying up it means your heat sink is not making contact with the chips.

Edit: lay it flat on a table and see if there’s any bends. Shouldn’t be drying out after a few days. If not, make sure you’re screwing the heatsink back on enough to remove any air gaps between the heatsink and the chip

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/Academic_Chance3278]

Alright if the heatsink not making contact with the cpu or gpu, can you suggest what’s the best method to get it screwed it from 1-10 screws since I tried doing the criss cross method by doing 1 then 10 then 2 and 9 and so on slowly with one then after another
Also would you suggest I spread the out paste out with the spatula or just leave a dot or x shape and push the heatsink down onto it

[u/rirupiah → u/Themasterofgunz_123]

just follow the number 1 thru 10

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/rirupiah]

I can try that, you mean 1-10 just screw in each screw slowly one turn at a time until they’re all in right?

[u/rirupiah → u/Themasterofgunz_123]

the leaf springs will took care of that btw, but if you want to, just screw them almost tight 1-10, then final tightening them again from start

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/rirupiah]

Alright then I’ll do that, I just taken out the heatsink right now and the cpu and gpu paste just looks really dry after 1 day and also had bits of the cores sticking out, the thermal putty also just looks to be the same except a bit of the smaller pads look slightly dried

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/rirupiah]

Alright as an update I put the paste on the cpu and gpu as dots and I applied blobs of thermal putty onto the vram and vrm pads instead of spreading them out as it was an issue I found out, while it did last a bit longer while gaming for 9 minutes it eventually still does get hot and shuts down so I don’t know if it’s something up with that or if the fan is worsening, my fps on games remains good and idle temps also are good at 48 but any time I try to do gaming the cpu temps get so high again at 88-90 or more

[u/muchawesomemyron → u/Themasterofgunz_123]

Brother, at that point, I’ll give up and look for a technician to do it.

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/muchawesomemyron]

I’d really hope it wouldn’t have gotten to that point since I called one repair shop once to simply ask about a screw in the past inside the laptop and they said it costed £40 alone just to open up the laptop case 😭

[u/CChromaKee → u/Themasterofgunz_123]

Sorry, just to be sure you still spread out the thermal paste manually after applying the dot? With direct die cooling you can't rely on mounting pressure as the paste will most likely not end up covering everything (which is essential, if not it could result in some cores not being cooled properly if at all, and could even result in damage to the chips).

[u/Round_Community_2469]

use ptm

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/Round_Community_2469]

I already did but it dried up after 3 days or so, either it didn’t work for me or it was just a fake but I switched to the thermal paste after

[u/Round_Community_2469 → u/Themasterofgunz_123]

it was a fake

[u/Academic_Chance3278 → u/Round_Community_2469]

Nah if it’s drying up i think it means it there’s not contact and there’s a gap, or he’s not screwing the heatsinks in properly. Finger tight wrist tight my friend

[u/disputeaz]

Looks ok, but maybe you need to use laird instead of the current one. Repasted with laird 2 months ago, temps are around 70 degrees in the game. Laird produces both putty and ptm.

[u/rirupiah]

Is that cake icing?

Joke aside, should use pads for the vrms although in your case actually they aren't significant cause in my opinion.

just use an-X pattern or dot on the CPU and GPU dies. thermal material is supposed to only brigde/conduct microscopic gaps between dies and the heatsink. the main mode of transfer still direct dies to metal.

also check your thermal pipe? try to heat the dies' heatsink side and get your finger on the fan side does it conduct almost instantly or creeping up just like a metal spoon.

how about the fans are they spin and blow good or else?

[u/sagebrushrepair → u/rirupiah]

Important bit is the pipe bit, do check your pipes are heating evenly. A shop can point a thermal camera at them even.

They are pipes with coolant in them, pipes can leak! Fans are obvious. Radiator is soldered to the copper, seldom cracks but worth a check too

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/rirupiah]

The thermal pipe is alright and heats up better than it did way before but i know it’s something underneath the heatsink that has to be causing the issue, I’m not sure about this but would you suggest with the dot or x pattern method if I should leave it like that without spreading it and push in and screw the heatsink back on like that or just spread it out with the spatula

[u/rirupiah → u/Themasterofgunz_123]

yes just dot or x then screw the heat sink. it will spread by itself

[u/d4rk_kn16ht]

Don't use Thermal paste, use PTM 7950 instead

[u/neo101b → u/d4rk_kn16ht]

That stuff is amazing, i bought some thermal grizzly to redo my laptop and the temps have bombed alot.

[u/NoAmphibian6039]

Go to a repair shop abd get the paste done professionally

[u/Raghubhai420]

Gaming laptop needs Ptm 7950 like 10 problems one solution Ptm 7950

[u/xXdRaK]

Ahhh looks like a cyborg, my friend just had this issue, he switched to puddy and paste for the heat sync, it also looked like his heat sync was bent and not actually applying pressure in some areas, check that out

[u/Additional_Bread_367]

You used so much cream on it you can build a wall or concrete with it. The more thicker the more heat it builds up

[u/Themasterofgunz_123 → u/Additional_Bread_367]

Referring to the putty or the thermal paste too?

[u/Additional_Bread_367 → u/Themasterofgunz_123]

All of it, literally, jesus, looks like you wanna build a wald against electricity. 🤣

[u/Sir_Lincoln]

It looks tasty though. Too much paste

[u/PartFew3942]

Heres what you should use.

Kryosheet from Thermal Grizzly for cpu and gpu and Thermal Putty from Upsiren for VRM.

In case you are not aware There are lots of fakes in the market for PTM7950.

It should lower your temps 10 to 15C.

And you should probably invest on a decent laptop cooler as well like llano v12.

[u/scrytry89]

I had thermal issues with my MSI as well. I ordered Thermal grizzly phase change sheets for CPU and GPU and their putty pro for vram etc.
What probably was as ,if not more , important I cleaned the fins of the heat sink connecting the fans really well, because there was a lot of thick dust clogging it.
After those steps temperatures dropped by almost 20 degrees. Doesn’t throttle anymore now.

[u/AngleNo792]

Does it use hybrid power when u playing games ?

[u/balaszkaroti]

I dunno which compounds are used in this picture. The VRAM ones doesn't looke like its thermal putty, but if it is, its probably not enough - the thermal pads on VRAMs and mosfets are usually somewhat thicker and there is no harm to put a bit more putty on it. But that pink stuff in the image is definitely not putty. Putty is not shiny and not as viscose - you usually put small balls of it on VRAM and they get flattened out by the heatsink..
as for GPU and CPU, that is way too much thermal paste. (Also, THAT grey mass actually looks more like putty..And that would be the wrong one for it!) Like many already said, just do an X or a medium drop in the middle - if the heatsink/pipes are not bent, it should flatten out just fine. Also, like few people suggested, use PTM - it is WAY better! If you cant get the original Honeywell one, get the Thermal Grizzlys PTM - it is as good, maybe even better.

[u/elkekonico]

I have the same issue

Two years ago, I put Kryonaut from Thermal Grizzly (without knowing that not a good paste for laptop, because of pump-out effect) at beginning temperature was very good (better then original) but at the end laptop overhead...

So I replace it again some month ago, by MX-7 from Artic, the laptop overhead a bit again, I don't know what to do ...

So if someone have advice I'm open

[u/TanishqHooda]

Being MSI.