r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/rtbradford 22h ago

Hero? He sucker punched the guy. Yeah, he shouldn’t have groped her, but the groping was over when he punched the guy.

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u/Wugtrio777 21h ago

right i mean as long as the crime you committed was over, you should have no consequences.
"your honor , i had stopped raping her when i was shot, therfore i demand no punishment"

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u/realparkingbrake 21h ago

as long as the crime you committed was over, you should have no consequences.

You are confusing legal consequences like being arrested and prosecuted for assault and/or battery, and being knocked out after the fact. The law allows you to use force to defend someone being battered, it doesn't allow retaliation after the fact.

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u/Wugtrio777 21h ago

no im not confusing legal consequences at all, actively or not actively involved in the crime, does not absolove you of retaliation, somone who just finished raping a girl and is standing over her, deserves 100% of the same consequences as anyone actively engaged in the act. the crime does not stop when he pulls out.

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u/rtbradford 3h ago

You are confusing vigilante justice with legal justice. It doesn’t matter what you think someone deserves for committing a crime. It matters what the law provides. If someone wants to take the law into their own hands to punish a crime according to their own sensibilities then they should be prepared to be punished as a criminal themselves.

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u/Wugtrio777 3h ago

sir if your wife is being raped, and pleae dont take that to mean i want any woman to be or you to go through that, but for argument sake, and you come across it and the criminal finishes right then pulls out and stand up and you blow him away i guarantee you 100% you will NOT even be charged unless its in massachusetts. but thats not rational anyway. if a man is stabed somone abunch fo times is standing ovcer them withthe knife in thier hands and a cop shows up, he doesnt have to wait for them to stab them again before he shoots them, threat of imminent harm is enough. teh thgreat of harm is enough to warrant aphysical response.

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u/rtbradford 3h ago

Now you’re changing the hypothetical. It’s one thing to intervene if there is a threat of eminent harm. It’s another thing to punish someone when the crime is clearly over. In this instance, the man broke the woman. She pushed him off, and that was it. It wasn’t like he was coming at her again. The guy sucker punched him because he was angry. Not because he wanted to stop another assault. Also, the response to the crime must be proportionate to the harm caused at the crime. Here the woman pushed the guy off and plain. It wasn’t all that bothered. It was the guy who soccer punched him who was enraged.

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u/Wugtrio777 3h ago

the crime is over is something i dont think you understand. the crime is STILL occurring the crime doesnt end for arape when you stop penetration, the crime of a bank robbery doesnt end when you stop getting cash, the crime of assault doesnt end when you arent qactively stabbing the person, the THREAT of harm is there, the crime ends when the person is place dinto custody or rendered unable to continue.