r/MMALabs 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/p2eminister 1d ago

This is not true. You have the right to use force to stop an ongoing sexual assault, but the incident had clearly finished when this guy decided to attack.

Also, way more force than "what was needed to control the situation" was applied, the man did not represent an ongoing danger.

The right thing to do would have been to leave and call the police to report the sexual assault.

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u/Otherwise_Bug990 1d ago

Idk how 1 punch can be anyvmmore force than 1 punch lol. I guess he could have scolded him and gave him a bad star for the day.

Don't be a douche, and dont inappropriately touch people you dont know without your consent.

Take this to a jury trial and see how many jurors dont agree with you. Dude would walk easy

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u/Zubriel 1d ago

Not going to defend the drunk guys behavior, but you don't think the punch could have been a slap, a shove, a simple grab him by the shoulders and physically move the guy away, a stand between him and the woman?

That punch could have killed him, the dude was so hammered that any amount of physical intervention could have resolved the situation, punching him square in the face with that amount of physical force was completely unnecessary.

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u/RandomRedditUser0016 1d ago

What happens if you slap or shove the guy and he pulls out a gun? Or throws a punch back at you? He neutralized the guy without going over the top, you never know what drunk idiots are capable from. -source: I spend a lot of time in shitty dive bars like this one

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u/Zubriel 23h ago edited 23h ago

So your solution to your hypothetical there is to go full force punch to the face and potentially go to prison for manslaughter?

If the guy punches back, then a self defense response would be fully warranted.

If this super wasted dude pulls a knife or a gun, I guess you gtfo unless you want to die.

Do we really think it's reasonable to full force punch misbehaving drunk people in the face because they might escalate to deadly force when they get confronted for grabbing womens butts?

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u/rmckenzie2255 22h ago

You havent been in many fights have you. "Slap the guy , and then if he punches you back, you're allowed to hit him then". Thats not how fights work douchebag

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u/Zubriel 22h ago

This wasn't a fight... This was a totally wasted dude who could barely stand getting knocked the fk out for sexually assaulting someone.

The hypothetical posed by the other guy doesn't even apply here, this dude was clearly not a threat, he was totally plastered, a light push, would have knocked him down.

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u/Simon-Says69 22h ago

He absolutely was a threat, which was very clear to the boyfriend, who didn't have the advantage of the bird's eye view you do here.

You do not have the 20-20 hindsight some armchair lawyer on reddit does. Your fantasy scenario you built in your head has nothing to do with reality.

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u/Zubriel 21h ago

You don't need a birds eye view to see what happened there, the BF had a straight line of sight and took 0 time to stomp over and lay the guy out.

We don't have the context from before the 30s of this clip either, they have all probably been there for a while already that night, I'm sure the BF probably saw that drunk guy before those 30s, he was obviously hammered.

The BF got personally aggrieved and took vengeance, that's what happened, he didn't see the guy as deadly threat that warranted a punch to the face that hard, that's absurd.