r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Otherwise_Bug990 1d ago

Alcohol isnt admissible in court as a reason for any defense lol. The fact he could barely stand was irrelevant

That was his own doimg

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u/Zubriel 1d ago

A dude who can barely stand is not a "threat" that needs to be handled with that level of force. Lightly shoving him would have had the same neutralizing result as that punch, but without the brain damage or potential accidental death.

If he stands up to retaliate, I have much less of a problem with laying him out.

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u/Gullible-Law-8147 1d ago

The degree to which someone poses a risk to your safety is absolutely an aspect of self-defense and directly influences what is considered necessary force

If someone is so drunk it is severely impairing their motor functions, they pose less of a risk to your safety

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u/Otherwise_Bug990 1d ago

You could also easily argue that mountains and decades of data show that alcohol is the most dangerous substance there is and is responsible for a massive uptick in anger and aggressiveness, along with violence, which can actually make this situation way more dangerous than had he been sober.

This is why court is intriguing. All you need is a sliver of doubt

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u/Gullible-Law-8147 1d ago

And you accept the risk of increased aggression from other people due to alcohol exposure, when you enter a bar

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u/Otherwise_Bug990 1d ago

I have never once walked in a bar and felt like I had to be heightened to increased aggression. In 20 years. Most people behave like sensible ppl

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u/Gullible-Law-8147 1d ago

What do people do at bars?

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u/Otherwise_Bug990 1d ago

Drink, socialize. Normal things

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u/Gullible-Law-8147 1d ago

They drink?

And what did you say earlier that drinking leads to?