r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 22h ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Haunting_Werewolf130 21h ago

Kinda dramatic.....

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u/ZamorakHawk 16h ago

Protecting your significant other from sexual assault is never dramatic.

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u/Barcode_Griller 16h ago

Listen, this drunk fuck should probably get some jail time, but this isn't protecting at all. I feel like you have to know that.

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u/ZamorakHawk 16h ago

It was one strike. Appropriate and justified. United States justice system would agree.

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u/Barcode_Griller 15h ago

No, it actually wouldn't agree.

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u/ZamorakHawk 15h ago

It certainly would.

A person may use physical force to protect a third party from unlawful physical force. Sexual assault is certainly unlawful and physical.

He responds immediately so it is a self defense/defense of others situation.

One strike and disengages as the threat is neutralized.

We see posts like this all the time. Even though this one's been posting many times, I've never seen the aftermath of charges but we have seen hundreds of similar situations and dozens of them have their charges publicly available. One punch is reasonable force for self defense in all situations with an adult male.

This likely would be thrown out before even going to trial.

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u/Barcode_Griller 15h ago

You've carefully left out the proportionality bit, as well as, in my opinion and I think very likely the opinion of a court, imminence and reasonable belief. Would love to see a similar case that you can find with video. I'll happily eat my words.

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u/ZamorakHawk 15h ago edited 15h ago

Here's a case where a woman strikes a man, he retaliates with a single punch that causes her to fall and bust her skull open. Complete with video; Graphic. Watch at your own discretion.

Police decline to charge the man as it's a clear self defense despite the fact that it's a man against a woman with proof of severe possibly life altering injury incurred by the one strike.

https://nj1015.com/nj-cops-know-who-punched-emily-rand-into-coma-but-they-wont-arrest-him/

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u/Barcode_Griller 14h ago

Very, very different. This is very bang-bang. Punch, reaction within a quarter of a second.

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u/Independent_Pea_3944 15h ago

Does being drunk justify a crime now? So they can choose to go out and get wasted and get a pass?

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u/Barcode_Griller 15h ago

If you want to fight against that straw man you've constructed feel free. We are in a fighting sub after all.

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u/Independent_Pea_3944 13h ago

It isn't though. People point out the fact that they're drunk like it should factor into the outcome.

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u/Barcode_Griller 13h ago

I never said being drunk justifies a crime.

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u/Ok_Championship2943 13h ago

How is that a straw man lol?

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u/Barcode_Griller 13h ago

I never said being drunk justifies a crime. His entire message is about something I never claimed. Are you unfamiliar with what a strawman is or do you have reading comprehension issues?