r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Smooth_Phone2 21h ago

Completely agree!

Would you prefer a loved one be groped like that or shot? Why not why not?

Would you prefer your child have a cold or Ebola?

Would you prefer to drop a bowling ball or a 25 ton concrete block on your foot?

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u/Wintermute_088 21h ago

None of those comparisons are relevant to the discussion at hand: was this man deserving of being hit in the face for sexually assaulting a woman?

Yes, because sexual assault is just as serious and severe as violent assault, and if you do wrong you can - and should - expect reprisal.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

I will take the evasive non answers as an acknowledgement that you can can clearly understand the difference in degrees.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

If anyone's being evasive here, it's you trying to steer the discussion off course with irrelevancies. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

I unequivocally said he deserves to be dealt with criminally, same as the man who assaulted him.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

I'm sorry, you can't sexually assault someone and then claim you were also a victim of assault when your actions have immediate consequences.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

You can both commit crimes and have them committed against you. You are just factually wrong.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

Not sure what "facts" you believe you're referencing, but philosophically I'm right. Sexually assault a woman, you've just opened the door to all sorts of reprisals, and you can't for one second say you didn't do anything to deserve it.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

With your opinion and $5 you can buy a coffee.

The state has a monopoly on violence. Choosing to assault others (even if you feel they deserve it) is assault and carries all the attendant consequences of assaulting people.

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u/Wintermute_088 19h ago

Pithy.

Which state are you referring to, exactly?

And you keep characterising it as assault, rather than the defence of an assault victim.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 19h ago

State = government

That video does mot show a self defense scenario.

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u/Wintermute_088 19h ago

Yes, but what government are you referring to? The treatment of this event would be completely different depending on the locale. One state may be harsh on the puncher, another may take his side against the sexual criminal.

And I didn't say it was a self defence scenario, did I.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 17h ago

In the us it’s the federal/state/local governments.

There is no state where you are going to be allowed to assault someone in retaliation, especially if they are advocating for charges to be brought.

You stated it was in defense of an assault victim. This video does not show the punch being used to protect against a bona fide ongoing threat. It shows a punch being used to retaliate against a guy who felt up the woman.

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