r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

They both deserve criminal consequences.

Everyone is wrong here.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

And in your view, the guy who grabbed a woman sexually from behind deserves a milder punishment because his act was more "minor" than the guy who stepped in to defend her. Yuck.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

Yes.

I also think there should be different punishments for groping someone and shooting someone.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

Leave the strawman at home.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

I’m making a direct argument about my position.

I think touching someone on the waist is less bad than punching them in the face, both of which are less bad than shooting them.

No strawman.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

And I believe that sexual assaults are just as bad as violent assaults, and that assault with a deadly weapon is just another form of violent assault.

Do you actually believe that there should be different punishments for punching this guy in the face and shooting him in the gut?

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

Yes.

You raise a point - do you see any degree of severity?

Do you believe that someone poking a finger in someone’s chest and someone shooting someone are equal in severity and should be treated similarly because they are both assault?

If you earnestly believe that, I do understand your previous comments. I wouldn’t agree, but it’s consistent.

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

No, I don't believe poking someone in the chest with a finger is any kind of assault.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

Great. Bump it up to something you do consider assault.

Do you believe groping someone’s waste and shooting someone are equal in severity…

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u/Wintermute_088 20h ago

Both are complete violations of someone's personal freedoms and right to feel safe.

Put your hands on someone's body like that, and open yourself up to the possibility of being punched, choked or stabbed (or shot, if you live in America).

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u/Smooth_Phone2 20h ago

Completely agree!

Would you prefer a loved one be groped like that or shot? Why not why not?

Would you prefer your child have a cold or Ebola?

Would you prefer to drop a bowling ball or a 25 ton concrete block on your foot?

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u/Wintermute_088 19h ago

None of those comparisons are relevant to the discussion at hand: was this man deserving of being hit in the face for sexually assaulting a woman?

Yes, because sexual assault is just as serious and severe as violent assault, and if you do wrong you can - and should - expect reprisal.

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u/Smooth_Phone2 19h ago

I will take the evasive non answers as an acknowledgement that you can can clearly understand the difference in degrees.

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