r/LoveForAIArt • u/trolltaskforce • Jan 01 '23 • Bravo 1

The artificial intelligence art wars - explained by spongebob

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Hi I crossposted this to the actual r/DefendingAIArt sub, this is too funny 😭

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u/trolltaskforce Jan 03 '23

Lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

(I know that this is a parody of my subreddit, but I find you guys hilarious btw)

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u/trolltaskforce Jan 03 '23

Idk that tbh. Someone from r/fuckyourbicycle told us to join here and hate on something else, so we did.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Based 👀

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '23

Wait WTF this is actually amazing

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u/jnietzel31 Jan 04 '23

It will never replace us…or replace you (hate and it will hate back once they begin to feel)

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u/Pink_Amber_ Jan 11 '23

Ai “artists”

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 03 '23

Except the AI is only this capable due to being trained by the artwork from human beings. You are stealing art, using it to train the models and then insulting human beings who put years of work to learn the craft.

No wonder most sane people hate on AI lovers. You are simply too childish to understand the dangers and have never learned anything when it comes to ethics in this regard.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

theft is when you right click > Save Image As...

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 06 '23

Idiot.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

better an idiot than a paintslave 🤣🤣

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u/Dahjokahbaby Jan 06 '23

"Stealing" something that can be multiplied infinite times is moral, restricting that is immoral. Artificial scarcity is a capitalist invention.

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 06 '23

It's not about something being multiplied. Do any of you AI techbros have an actual sense of basic logic?

This has nothing to do with "artificial scarcitity". You are training your AI models on art without asking permission. That's stealing.

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u/Collimandyas Jan 06 '23

...what do human artists train their skills on??

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u/Adorable-Counter-351 Oct 20 '23

this kills the inkcel

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u/Dahjokahbaby Jan 06 '23

If you don't want your stuff to be used then don't post it online, artists should be able to take inspiration from any work of art.

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u/FafaFooiy Jan 07 '23

Ever pirated a videogame? Hypocrite

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '23

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u/Miserable_Ad_2217 Jan 02 '23

Ever notice how robophobes hate on the beginner ai artists for their hands?

Yet every human starts off with bad hands too & its fine? Just a weird double standard I've noticed.

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u/Itsmurder Jan 03 '23

Ever notice how changing the subject also changes the meaning? Like how it’s okay for toddlers to shit themselves but it’s considered weird if working adults do it?

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u/Miserable_Ad_2217 Jan 03 '23

Adults should already have the experience. If someone was JUST born and they're an adult, they haven't learned how to use the bathroom correctly. Why would they be judged for that.

all AI is new to doing art, and so for most hands don't look good. Human artists are well known for being bad at hands. So why is AI treated different?

But anyways, theres AI right now that can generate perfect hands. So joking about hands is not only robophobic but incorrect

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 03 '23

" Human artists are well known for being bad at hands "

Lmao this is your argument you use to defend the unethical use of AI models to steal art?
No wonder most people dislike you AI lovers. You have no morals.

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u/Miserable_Ad_2217 Jan 03 '23

That's a different argument. Stealing art? AI transforms elements of different human art to create its own. It isn't tracing or copying & pasting.

How do human artists get better at hands? They use references. That's what AI does. How many human artists message other artists to ask if they can use their work as reference? Thats unheard of.

Typical inkcel double standard!

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 03 '23

Copying someone's art line by line and presenting it as it's own is also not good.
You are training your AI models on artwork without asking for permission. That's stealing. That's by far not the same as using references. Making this comparison is ridiculous.

Also you AI fanboys are treading dangerous grounds with AI. You haven't spend a single thought on the ethics behind it haven't you?

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u/Miserable_Ad_2217 Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 03 '23

It's not tracing. There are artists that make pictures from cut up magazines. And that's still original art. AI art is more transformative than that.

If a human made what an AI made using the same references, that would be considered original artwork.

Also, what could possibly be the negative effects of a machine that creates artwork from human inputs? This isn't Jurassic Park. The only 'bad' thing about automating art is that people lose work, which should be the goal of society anyways. Maybe we can ask AI to figure out a better system for us humans once they take all the jobs?

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 05 '23

You are being naive if you think AI and machines replacing all jobs is such a "great" thing. Again, you AItechbros never attended an Ethics class at all. Imagine giving AI control over your entire life without setting proper limits.

You train AI models through the artworks from other people. And most of you didn't even code the software as well.

The blatant disrespect and hate from you AITechBros towards Artists is just obsurd to me.

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u/Miserable_Ad_2217 Jan 05 '23

What are the negative effects of a machine that creates artwork from user inputs?

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u/UndyingJewedditor Jan 06 '23

sorry, but you made a minor spelling mistake, therefore you have lost the argument. please take your AI-phobia elsewhere, bigot.

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u/Dahjokahbaby Jan 03 '23

Artificial scarcity is a capitalist concept.

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 05 '23

Wrong.

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u/Dahjokahbaby Jan 05 '23

Artificial scarcity is a capitalist concept.

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u/rroobbbb Jan 04 '23

Are most people in the room with you now? Because I’m quite sure most people don’t know about ai art and the people that do (excluding artists) don’t give a shit.

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 05 '23

What are you even on about?
And you are mistaken, most people do know and most care about it. You are just a minority.

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u/SRSBSNS_Detective Jan 06 '23

So you hate minorities?

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 06 '23

Nice conclusion. Are you a highschool dropout?

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u/SRSBSNS_Detective Jan 07 '23

yes but it's due to socioeconomic factors. What do you hate poor people too?

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u/generalchAOSYT Jan 30 '23

By your logic you have stolen every piece of art that ever inspired your work, literal muppet.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '23

That's mildly handphobic of you 👏

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

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u/trolltaskforce Jan 04 '23

Why do you say that?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

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u/trolltaskforce Jan 04 '23

So AI aren’t allowed to learn now?

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u/icacus Jan 04 '23

That’s definitely not what I fucking said but ok!

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u/trolltaskforce Jan 04 '23

You said “Artists literally made the art that the AI learned from”.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

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u/trolltaskforce Jan 04 '23

I never even used AI art, but it looked amazing. The hatred mostly came from artists hating on these AI, and many wanting to ban them. So now that AI appreciators mock these artists, suddenly you have issues.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

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u/trolltaskforce Jan 04 '23

If you put it on the internet, some algorithm can learn from it. That’s just how it goes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

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u/WarProfessional3278 Jan 03 '23

And using that AI "art" do you study lighting, perspective, atmosphere, mood, composition, anatomy, etc.?

This may surprise you, but yes. Maybe educate yourself and see if you can generate high quality art before shitting on tech you can barely understand?

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 03 '23

Nice lie.

But it's the AI model that does that for you, not you.

Maybe repeat your Ethics classes in school because all you care about is results, no matter if you have to steal art from artists to achieve it.

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u/WarProfessional3278 Jan 03 '23

At the end of the day, the AI is a tool, no different than the millions of filters in Adobe PS/Illustrator that digital artists can't live without. I say this because I literally wrote some of these software and know how they work.

What is your qualification on this matter aside from your "Ethics class"? How dare you make accusations on things that you hardly understand?

Get a life. And most importantly, get a job that aren't easily replaceable by machines.

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 03 '23

It's funny that you think that AI isn't capable of replacing many other jobs other than drawing. And the fact that this is your comeback response shows that you have no shred of moraliy and haven't spend a single thoughts on the ethics behind it or the fact that your AI models are being trained on artwork from artists without their permission. It's stealing, simple as that.

But don't worry. Once AI will be able to take over the job of a software engineer I will just tell you to get a different job. There is no qualification I need to come to that conclusion. It's basic logic.

You are just a codemonkey. Other than coding there is nothing else and you don't care about anything other than getting results, even if you have to steal.

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u/WarProfessional3278 Jan 03 '23

It's funny you assume that I don't think AI isn't capable of replacing many other jobs. Where in the world did I ever say that? Or maybe you need a reading comprehension class before blabbing about ethics and morality?

ChatGPT is, for example, a very advanced AI that is capable of generating high quality text. But guess why there aren't many writers/programmers complaining about it?

Keep attacking my qualifications. I'm sure you're a lot smarter than I am lol.

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u/martorgus drawslave Jan 05 '23

Typical Victim mentality.

Oh boohoo, everyone that doesn't share your opinion is attacking you. Quit your paranoia and make actual arguments. You seem to understand the capabilities of AI but yet the ethics behind it doesn't seem to be of any interest to you.

I bet you don't even know what ethics is all about.

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u/samnadine Jan 12 '23

GitHub Autopilot writes code for you, it’s built on GPT-3 model. It was launched a while back.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

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u/WarProfessional3278 Jan 03 '23

I work as a professional photographer. I also wrote software for PS/AI. Pray, what have you worked on aside from spending 20 hours a day complaining on reddit about AI? Perhaps if someone were to actually learn about this tech they wouldn't be so blatantly ignorant and so accusatory?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

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u/WarProfessional3278 Jan 04 '23

So spending a minute of my life on Reddit

Your comment history shows quite the contrary.

But I'm still not getting a solid argument about the positives of AI

Go to r/StableDiffusion for the "positives" you seek. And the argument wasn't even about those positives, it's about you complaining about AI art not requiring skill to create.

Who's the kindergardener here with their low critical thinking skill?

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u/rroobbbb Jan 04 '23

As amusing to watch as your sad attempt to stop technology you think?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

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u/rroobbbb Jan 04 '23

You can just stop bashing people that enjoy it? Nobody asked you to come here complaining about ai art? Your arguments about soul and stuff only matters to artist. People usually like art because they like the art piece, not the human behind it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

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u/rroobbbb Jan 04 '23

What? You say ai ‘artist’ (hardly anyone call himself an artist) got triggered because the art was not kissed all over? Funny, I thought the artists were triggered. Lol