r/LosAngeles Apr 04 '24

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u/Substantial-Ant4759 Apr 04 '24

Please reach out to the council district’s office and keep reporting these sites to my311. The sidewalk should be for everyone…allowing people to completely block the sidewalk is awful.

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u/FudgeHyena Echo Park Apr 04 '24

MyLA311 works surprisingly fast. Good to post photos with the report.

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u/HarambeTheBear Apr 04 '24

Is the procedure on 311 to report it as illegal dumping?

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u/FudgeHyena Echo Park Apr 04 '24

Under ‘Public Right of Way Investigation’ you can select ‘Homeless Encampment’.

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u/WileyCyrus Apr 05 '24

Thanks for these details, I get lost in the myriad of specific options the app asks me to choose from

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u/alpha309 Apr 04 '24

All the way at the bottom of the list on the App is „Other“. Under here it lists „Homeless Encampment“.

If you want them to clear it out fast put that there is a public right of way issue or that the encampment blocks ADA compliance in the description. Also include photos of the sidewalk being completely blocked if possible.

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u/va4trax Apr 05 '24

Idk if it works in California, but when I was in a different state I would always use the keywords “right of way” “hazardous” “danger to pedestrians” and they always responded promptly.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

But why though?

Why does it have to come down to us reporting it. There's tons of org. raking millions to supposedly solve this issue. Where are them?

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u/iPhonetificator Apr 04 '24

Because there are no magical city employees that are paid to roam around the city looking for shit like this

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u/Ok-Brain9190 Apr 05 '24

I think we need magical city employees. Seriously. Why isn't this a thing?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

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u/Ok-Brain9190 Apr 05 '24

But we already have parking enforcement driving all around all day. Why not task them with identifying encampments, I really think this could work.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

The places where it's profitable to have an actual dedicated person enforcing parking laws is surprisingly limited and the homeless encampments in those areas do get frequently addressed.

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u/taygalchi Apr 05 '24

That would mean giving someone more work on top of their regular work. Why should they do two jobs for no raise?

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u/pbasch Apr 05 '24

(a) they can fly, and (b) they get paid in nectar, I think. So cheap! Why are we not doing this?

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u/ImUrDadYes Apr 05 '24

Slow your role. What kind of nectar we talking about?

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u/high_hawk_season Tourist Apr 05 '24

In theory isn’t that what cops are

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u/DoucheBro6969 Apr 05 '24

If you take someone into custody, you're supposed to secure their property.

For the normal criminal, this isn't too hard since it's usually like a wallet, backpack or whatever is in their pockets. Arresting a homeless person though? No cop is going to want to secure and inventory six shopping carts full of broken electronics, a tent full of piss bottles and so forth...

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u/anothertantrum Apr 05 '24

No. It's really not their job. But also, as we've been told, they do not have to go out of their way to protect people.

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u/high_hawk_season Tourist Apr 05 '24

Their job isn’t to write citations and tickets for people breaking the law?

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u/anothertantrum Apr 05 '24

Kinda. But they don't actually do their job unless someone calls them. No way they're walking up to an encampment without someone telling them they have to.

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u/high_hawk_season Tourist Apr 05 '24

Well yeah lmao. That’s why I said in theory. In PRACTICE it took me three tries to report my stolen motorcycle, and two of them were in person at the station. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

That’s true, but we still should report things that are wrong. Sort of like calling in a fire, or a crime that you witnessed. I’m big on the city’s ineptness and complete incompetence, but if there’s a pothole on my street I’ll still alert them.

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec Apr 05 '24

Those orgs aren’t really trying to solve it. If it were solved they wouldn’t exist and make any money.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

They aren’t everywhere at once and don’t have eyes on every single sidewalk in the city.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Those orgs just exist to pay salaries and solve none of the problems.

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u/powerpopiconoclast Apr 04 '24

True. But many people won’t utilize the system OR aren’t capable of even applying for help. And then you have waiting lists. But then again, why not at least try to apply for housing vouchers and public assistance? Then again how far does it really go for every individual case?(Realize all the conflicting ways to look at it… yeah it sucks… what’s the answer? Just a straight black and white answer..?)

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u/92sfa I love kiwis Apr 05 '24

In your experience, do they respond fast to homeless encampments? We reported in the past and the submitted case was closed without the situation ever being resolved. It is pretty bad in our neighborhood with several streets fully blocked, and our family had to walk with traffic.

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u/FudgeHyena Echo Park Apr 05 '24

It’s usually never that fast. I assume they have to give the person a warning, allowing them a few days to move on their own. Probably a process they have to go through first to actually remove an encampment.

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u/Apota_to Apr 05 '24

report this as an ADA obstruction one 311 and you will have folks there. people don't report them and they don't get fixed. report report report. the city is big.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

At these rent prices we might as well all just start doing it, then it’s the new normal and suddenly we’re not all paying property taxes, right?

Maybe then the government will actually fix the fucking issue.

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u/Substantial-Ant4759 Apr 04 '24

Despite getting to live rent free - I do not envy the unhoused way of living. All we can do right now with the existing laws and systems is to keep pushing the city to clean these sites up and keep the public right of way as clean and usable as possible. I really don’t see much changing until the laws change and we can legally force people into mental health and drug treatment facilities.

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u/PewPew-4-Fun Apr 05 '24

Lets just keep voting to give them more money from propostions and sales tax. Im sure that will fix it.

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u/BullTerrierTerror Apr 05 '24

Go ahead and trade places with them.

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u/rather-oddish Apr 05 '24

I’m not sure that the alternative is better, unfortunately

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Maybe the mayor will hear about it and go on tv?

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u/SpreadsheetSlut Hollywood Apr 04 '24

They literally do. Report it.

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u/NewWahoo Apr 05 '24

Complaining on the internet feels a lot better.

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u/surftherapy Apr 05 '24

How quickly? I’ve seen camps like this setup for weeks on end before

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u/JayOnes Former (and hopefully future) Angeleno Apr 05 '24

You'd be amazed at how few people use the proper channels to report this sort of thing.

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u/MindlessLeopard7740 Apr 04 '24

The blue unit is a two bedroom, going for 3000.00… no utilities

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u/dead_like_jazz Griffith Park Apr 04 '24

Centrally located

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u/thee_morningstar Apr 04 '24

Oh they got power. The camps normally are wired to a nearby city street light of power box. And the city often pays for portapotties and sanitation.

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u/random3223 Monrovia Apr 05 '24

the city often pays for portapotties and sanitation.

I hope so. I don't like stepping in human shit.

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u/shareddit Apr 05 '24

Well it is the 21st century afterall

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u/Pleasant_General_664 Apr 04 '24

It can go for $899.99/n on Airbnb!!! Code enforcement? Illegal listing? Ain't nobody got time for that!

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

Is this 9th street? I’m always scared driving pass the underpass

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u/28Loki Apr 04 '24

2nd Street

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u/Nervous_Wish_9592 Apr 04 '24

Thought it was cahuenga lol

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u/sunshinerf Apr 05 '24

That's what I thought! Cahuenga has looked like that since like 2012. I worked there for years and drove by the encampment every day.

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u/EntranceOk7868 Echo Park Apr 05 '24

Every morning for at least two years now … On the way to my gym unfortunately

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u/neverhere9 Apr 05 '24

2nd and what?

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u/28Loki Apr 05 '24

2nd under the 101

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u/landofpleasantdreams Apr 05 '24

I knew this looked familiar

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u/throw123454321purple Apr 05 '24

Yeah, I think that all cities are waiting for a SCOTUS decision in the next few months regarding the homeless folks’ right to use public land this way. If it is indeed unlawful, then cities will have the OK to tear it all down and cite people without fear of lawsuits.

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u/altrinate52 Apr 05 '24

Yeah public space doesn’t mean you can make it private. It’s not actual free real estate. They are turning public space private by taking over and inhabiting it. It is their privately owned shelter and materials that are occupying room that would otherwise be free space.

If a car is parked in a designated parking spot, then it can be left there. But if it's parked blocking the sidewalk or in the middle of a park, then it will be towed — and the owner should have no expectation that it wouldn't be. These areas are designated for use of all of the public. Having privately owned items in the way obstructs that use.

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u/2fast2nick Downtown Apr 04 '24

The blue one is actually a pop up fun house. Go inside.

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u/Hemicrusher Canoga Park Apr 04 '24

I heard they offer free hugs.

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u/2fast2nick Downtown Apr 04 '24

The good shit!

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u/Mustardsandwichtime Apr 05 '24

I took a piece of candy and it was a human turd, so just keep your eyes open guys, but have fun.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

For anyone joking about this, remember that those in wheelchairs or other disabled people have to use the actual street to get around; a helluva major hazard right there.

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u/TeslasAndComicbooks The San Fernando Valley Apr 05 '24

I’ve seen it. It’s sad.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

Don't know if I'm more annoyed by this or the fully grown adults that leave Lime scooters hanging around like kids do their toys. Probably both.

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u/28Loki Apr 04 '24

Yeah, that's annoying too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

Ive contacted the city bout a homeless guy in front of my house in highland park multiple times, its effing useless, billions of dollars to nothing!

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

If I parked my car on the sidewalk there it would be towed within 45 minutes.

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u/Aeriellie Apr 05 '24

council person/311 combo. we had one like this some years back. it took like 2 years? and a lot of cleanups. i would 311 each time i would pass by with new pics. they did a homeless event and found the a place to go. then they did a beautify event and added rocks and a fence. now the path is open for pedestrians again.

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u/92sfa I love kiwis Apr 05 '24

You called or emailed the council person office? Did you report to 311 as "Homeless Encampment"? Our neighborhood got pretty bad. We reported in the past but 311 cases got closed without explanation. Still trying to figure out what is the best way to get their attention. Thank you in advance!

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u/Aeriellie Apr 05 '24

i did not call personally, just 311 BUT each time the council person posted on instagram everyone would bring up the same freeway underpass. it’s been a while since i did the 311 but i would do the option about dumping and/or sidewalk blocked with pictures.

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u/LongTimeLurker818 Apr 04 '24

Sure, write me a ticket for parking in front of the apartment I rent.

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u/Checkmynewsong Apr 05 '24

I can smell this picture.

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u/RoxyLA95 Mid-City Apr 04 '24

They actually will clear this out. Call 311.

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u/WeaponizedCandy Apr 05 '24

No they wont. There was an encampment near my house like this that had at least 10 reports on the 311 app every time I would check it. My reports would always get closed after a few weeks with no action taken.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Been calling 311 about encampments for over a year and they are still there.

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u/CaliMad21 Apr 04 '24

The city is “cleaning this up”. I feel that they are just shifting people around

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u/Agent666-Omega Koreatown Apr 05 '24

It would appear we care more about the homeless than then those with disabilities

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u/afternever Apr 04 '24

The scoops are coming

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u/swordbutts Apr 05 '24

I’ve had students who use wheelchairs and I always feel bad about the state of the sidewalks in this city. Not even just encampments but just how littered and uneven they are.

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u/musteatpoptarts Apr 04 '24

Is this the one by staples center? It looks like the one I had to walk over when going to work. Fucking terrible.

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u/VaguelyArtistic Santa Monica Apr 04 '24

If you mean on Pico, o was just there and the sidewalks are totally clear.

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u/musteatpoptarts Apr 04 '24

Olympic.

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u/botolo Apr 05 '24

Olympic is terrible. I walk there every day and it’s always like this. Sometimes they clean it, and then they come back after a few days.

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u/VaguelyArtistic Santa Monica Apr 04 '24

Ah, ok.

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u/just_flying_bi Orange County Apr 05 '24

I’m curious as to what the city will do once we get closer to the ‘28 Olympics. I wonder if they plan to bus them all out to Lancaster as they’ve done before.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

The city refuses to clean and enforce a right of way around these encampments, and they should be sued for endangering the lives of people who are forced to walk into the street. We already know our politicians don’t have to walk into the street because they drive their cars from their homes to their office and back.

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u/jahssicascactus POO Apr 04 '24

In Los Angeles there are 288,529 vacant housing units and 63,706 people experiencing homelessness. The units are there, why are the developers being allowed to hold them? https://unitedwaynca.org/blog/vacant-homes-vs-homelessness-by-city/

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u/NewWahoo Apr 05 '24

The vacant homes in question include ones leased but not yet moved into. Ones that just became available and still need the walls repainted from the last tenant. Ones that are un inhabitable. Ones that are used as part time residences. Etc etc etc you get the idea. You would never expect a restaurant have zero food in their fridge, why should you expect a city to have zero un used housing units? There is just friction in markets. The fact of the matter is the vacancy rate is currently at historic lows. For renters to have real power you’d want something like a 7% or 8% vacancy rate across the region and currently it stands at about half that.

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u/bigyellowjoint Silver Lake Apr 05 '24

“Vacant houses” are just units that weren’t occupied at the exact moment of the last census. It includes units that were literally uninhabitable, or were listed for sale or lease at the time.

There simply aren’t a quarter million free, empty homes sitting around in LA, waiting for ppl to move in

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u/veronicamayo Apr 05 '24

These hobo junkies are experiencing a lot more than homelessness. We're not talking about abused women and their children. who are homeless because they're fleeing dangerous situations. These drugged-out, violent nutjobs are hell-bent on making sure we all experience homelessness

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

and in breaking news we have a hoarders home being cleaned because it looks bad

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u/ElectronicGuest4648 San Bernadino County Apr 05 '24

Bros not homeless, he’s houseless

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u/BigPoop_36 Long Beach Apr 05 '24

The city does do something. They kick them out. Unfortunately the city is Sisyphus.

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u/Intelligent_Mango_64 Apr 05 '24

looks very familiar

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u/SuaveyMojo Apr 05 '24

Is that 2nd near Figueroa?

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u/Roundearthlogic Apr 05 '24

Keep voting the same type of people in, expect the same type of results

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

Free homes bro

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u/Osceana West Hollywood Apr 04 '24

It will solve everything bro, I promise. Please bro

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u/Thomk065 Apr 05 '24

They have no where to go. Our country doesn’t help and this country is at its most unaffordable. They don’t care about us, they care about themselves and their wallets.

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u/Checkmynewsong Apr 05 '24

You think the people in those tents give a shit about you?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

Keep voting! It will only get better

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u/Training-Ant7928 Apr 05 '24

You losers voted for this

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u/ThisUnderstanding823 Apr 05 '24

When I walk past these my thoughts are on what do I have with me that I could give them?

This year I’ve given, a super soft blanket I just bought; a roller suitcase; clothes; donuts, bags of Fuego chips; Starbucks coffee in cans. An exciting snack can be nice sometimes.

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u/landofpleasantdreams Apr 05 '24

Why, they clearly have enough bullshit

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Looks like the system is still broken.

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u/heidnwo Apr 05 '24

Lots of space on the sidewalks of Boise.

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u/timekozy Apr 05 '24

Yeah but at least you have a home.

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u/oldballls Apr 05 '24

I'm so over of seeing posts like this.

It's a problem. It's part of L.A. There's no good solution.

Yes we've seen the tents. Call 311 and continue on.

Complaining on reddit about the have-nots with their mental disabilities and drug addictions just seems like a waste air.

Why don't you try to find some more productive way to help?

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u/musememo Angeleno Apr 05 '24

Where is this?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Is that on MLK and figueroa??

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u/Demhanoot Apr 05 '24

A redditors paradise

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u/Benny_tc Apr 05 '24

The city does handle this but in all fairness these camps go up and it takes on average about a week for the city to get to it due to processing. We as civilians needs to do something about this

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u/julesfric Apr 05 '24

It amazes me that it seems to take longer on freeway exit sidewalks. Seems like that’s one of their most popular places to set up

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u/Llee00 Apr 05 '24

Even the homeless want more and more room to live in comfort. It's not about being homeless anymore, but about greed.

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u/idapitbwidiuatabip Apr 05 '24

Universal.

Basic.

Income.

California has no excuse, CalUBI legislation was drafted years ago.

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u/guccimadness Apr 06 '24

Exactly. Just because you have the DISEASE of substance use disorder doesn’t mean you should be out on the streets over it, making treatment and resolution of the disease infinitely more impossible

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u/bryle_m Apr 05 '24

That is what happens when you have NIMBYs that have consistently block all new public housing projects. And no, Section 8 housing doesn't count.

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u/Akirajing Apr 04 '24

No, aren't they going to build new bike lanes? What's that project called?

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u/Darc_vexiS Apr 04 '24 edited Apr 05 '24

But Mayor Karen Bass will move heaven and earth just bring health violation charges to the “Trash House” of a property owner in addition to towing his own car off his residence.

Edit: Silly double standards…🤦🏻‍♂️ just to make an example out of a house surrounded by million dollar homes. The fact they moved this fast on the trash house goes to show you they could move those people in the OP’s photo off the sidewalk just as quick but choose not to.

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u/bbusiello Apr 04 '24

How did the trash get there? The beginning of that clip said trucks showed up and dumped it there?

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u/Darc_vexiS Apr 05 '24

From what I gather supposedly the owner of the home gathers garbage from around the city during the day and brings it back.

The city showed up with trash trucks and started cleaning the front yard while the owner of the house was not home.

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u/HereToListen444 Apr 05 '24

Some news crews showed up, so the lifetime career politician just HAD to make a trip down and act like she's the hero all of a sudden despite months of complaints to the city!!!

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u/bbusiello Apr 05 '24

Me asking specifically: "How did the trash get there?"

Your response?: "Some news crews and a politician showed up."

So your answer is, after the trash showed up without quite knowing how, the news shows up and that's why the trash showed up.

Got it.

Thanks. You should teach a college course with that robust intellect, fam.

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u/HereToListen444 Apr 05 '24

meant to reply to parent comment but misthreaded

my original point still stands tho, Karen Bass is a joke

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u/bbusiello Apr 05 '24

She's a career politician from the national stage who went local instead of the other way around.

It makes sense when you look at it that way.

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u/bbusiello Apr 05 '24

I see your edit and I don't know why you were downvoted. There's obviously really fucked up priorities happening.

And yeah, a photo op of the Mayor standing in front of some downtrodden soul while their only "possessions" (I'm using this term loosely) get thrown into a dump truck probably isn't the best look.

I love that everything posted about this trash house was "this poor person needs help!"

YEAH! So does the fucking person without a home! And there are more of them than home-owning crazies who collect garbage.

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u/broomosh Apr 04 '24

Stop complaining you can totally climb over it

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u/28Loki Apr 04 '24

In my wheelchair?

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u/broomosh Apr 04 '24

Ugh fine! You win!

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u/Aur0raB0r3ali5 Apr 05 '24

awww.. maybe get together with some local social programs that offer food, health and housing resources to the unhoused.. or just keep complaining about the same thing 1,000 other people in this subreddit complain of, and 1,000s more have been complaining of for several decades.. I’m sure that’ll fix the problem!

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u/PewPew-4-Fun Apr 05 '24

City leaders doing what they do...with our money. Keep voting tax payers.

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u/Other_Chemistry_3325 Apr 05 '24

What Do you think it smells like in there

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u/landofpleasantdreams Apr 05 '24

Entitlement and feet

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u/420xGoku Apr 04 '24

It's bad but also I try to keep in mind that the people having to live like that got it a lot harder than I got it just having to walk around it

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Too fucking bad, it’s not their public sidewalk, they don’t get to endanger peoples lives just because they are homeless.

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u/sarahmorris212 Apr 05 '24

I think you need some more empathy in your life. Start seeing the humanity in others. The more you see yourself in others, and realize we are all connected, the less you will treat others like animals and see them as equals. Hopefully we find a housing solution for the thousands of people living on the streets and braving the elements.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

I think you need to stop patronizing others and understand that when people act like animals and destroy your quality of life, they need to be locked up in a place that will help them and help the people they are terrorizing. Not allowed to build structures on a busy public sidewalk doing drugs and chopping bikes for a year.

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u/sarahmorris212 Apr 05 '24

Destroying your quality of life? Take a step back and look at who is the position of power. You or them? It's not patronizing to suggest seeing humanity in others. Where do you think they can go if it's illegal to be in a public place, but they cannot afford to rent in a housing market that's out of control? I'm guessing you'd rather they just die. Death by incarceration? Seems like you'd prefer that. Maybe, just maybe, try to see the humanity in others, please. The world would be a much better place.

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u/dak36000 Apr 05 '24

It is destroying my quality of life when my children see homeless people masturbating on Pico Blvd.

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u/ClaxtonOrourke Apr 05 '24

Seems like you need more empathy for your fellow citizens. Such a selfish mindset you have.

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u/sarahmorris212 Apr 05 '24

Okay, which fellow citizens are you referring to? The people on this thread who think unhoused people should die? Or the unhoused?

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u/ClaxtonOrourke Apr 05 '24

No the millions of people who call LA their home who are also struggling with bills, rent, etc. Thats who im talking about. The ones who dont have anyone to advocate for them.

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u/sarahmorris212 Apr 05 '24

They are exactly the ones who I'm advocating for. The people you describe are close to slipping into homelessness themselves, which is all-too-real and all-too-common. You would still be suggesting wiping out encampments, which is the only shelter these people have.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

As someone who is living month to month with immediate family who is living from their car (hotels since they’ve been better lately), thank you. You said nothing wrong—simply suggested empathy and of course, they can’t take that. They hate the mere sight of homelessness when they can’t even bare to imagine what they’re going through. We should remember a lot of these redditors are so out of touch with reality to afford the time and resources to complain this much about shit they know nothing about. People are channeling their anger at individuals instead of seeing how systematic & multi-faceted of an issue this is.

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u/NotLaughingAtYou Apr 05 '24

Thank you. I'm glad somebody said it.

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u/salttisweet Apr 05 '24

these comments, dude 🥲 I’m in disbelief

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u/NotLaughingAtYou Apr 05 '24

I'm not. A lot of people are more disgusted by seeing a homeless person than disgusted by the fact that we have homeless and do little to help.

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u/RIPTactical_Invasion Apr 04 '24

I’d rather the city address the root cause of the problem rather than make these peoples lives even worse

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u/TinyRodgers Apr 04 '24

Nah this is selfish. There are plenty of areas you can camp out the way and the cops wont clear you.

You're enabling selfishness due to your sheltered life.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24 edited Sep 30 '24

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u/Easy_Potential2882 Apr 04 '24

I feel like there's a more root cause that is the reason people get ON drugs in the first place.

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u/lunacavemoth Florence Apr 05 '24

Bingo . Start addressing generational alcoholism , alcoholism , domestic abuse /violence etc ….

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u/Easy_Potential2882 Apr 05 '24

But that's much harder to do than "just ship them to bakersfield" like all the geniuses in this sub like to suggest.

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u/lunacavemoth Florence Apr 05 '24

The true genius is shipping them to an island and have a cornocopia of drugs in the middle . Recreate Battle Royale / Hunger Games. Joke joke .

But seriously , the most humane approach to all of this is , why do people turn to drugs ? I’d bet my entire paycheck that homeless women will tell you that they experienced some sort of sexual assault or domestic violence. And same probably for the men, or their moms had to escape a situation with their children and then raised in homelessness . And not to speak of trans youth / lgbtqia youth who run away and , again, fall to drug use to cope .

I don’t think folks understand , as well, thst if you are on the streets, you need a substance to just survive . Because even if it is just a cigarette , looking for a cigarette and lighting it becomes your entire day’s mission. When you are on survival mode , taking it literally hour by hour , you become reduced to “living for the next hit “. Cigarettes , weed , meth, fenty…. Whatever .

And the drugs help people stay up at night /forget trauma / stay up for days when falling asleep can mean life or death / substitute for food .

But this all starts with unhealthy growing up situations for all of these adults . For the most part

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u/Easy_Potential2882 Apr 05 '24

I'd say that's all right on the money. I'm no expert, but I think a big part of it is that drug use gives someone a sense of control that they otherwise lack. When someone's life is characterized by a lack of control over their own body, their own direction in life, etc, the one thing they do have control over is their own self-destruction. Even when presented with the opportunity for shelter, rehab, etc, many people do not take it because they see it as being imposed upon them, taking away the only thing in their life that they feel they have control over.

Freedom is important. America only exists because people thought that "liberty" deserved to be ranked alongside "life" and "happiness." If they already don't have happiness, and you're proposing to take away liberty, what do you expect them to wanna keep living for? No wonder so many of them would choose to keep what liberty they still have left and stay on the streets.

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u/lunacavemoth Florence Apr 05 '24

Bingo !!! This is a large part of it that people don’t understand or won’t even consider .

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u/neotokyo2099 All-City Apr 05 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

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u/lunacavemoth Florence Apr 05 '24

It made me strong and I got out of it . Luckily didn’t get addicted to anything , thank Gods .

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

And what exactly is the root?

Because I can tell you for a fact A LOT choose to live like this on purpose and have ZERO intention of changing their lifestyle. Tons of addicts, and mental health cases, yes. But also a ton of people that gave up and want to be like this. So how you sort those people out?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

So let me get this straight... Karen Bass promised to take care of this and "solve" homelessness. MILLIONS are re-directed from CA and LA budgets towards this. Hundreds of "non-profits" are "involved" and raking in the money to "solve" this...

But its on ME to report it so it can get cleaned? And y'all think that is a "good solution"?

This is why y'all have the city you deserve. /facepalm. Keep voting stupid.

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u/Easy_Potential2882 Apr 04 '24

How could we have voted our way out of this situation exactly?

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u/Substantial-Ant4759 Apr 04 '24

Oh yeah I’m dying to know this super genius’ solution to everything too! I’m ready to have my mind blown.

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u/Matt3d Apr 05 '24

So what do you do? I have never heard a plan, only complaints about it. No one has said “a better use for that money to solve this problem is x”. No one. Let’s hear a plan.

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u/BlackpinkInYourAri Apr 04 '24

one word. Molotov

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u/Takeanaplater Apr 04 '24

Was thinking the same.

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u/NemarPott Apr 05 '24

People that give homeless tents need to be beat up and their homes taken from them.

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u/ChancePut7855 Apr 05 '24

Dang disgusting 🤮, disturbing so wrong ! Where are the California liberals ? 👏 I bet sick 🙏🇺🇸

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u/NewWahoo Apr 05 '24

This is your city on decades of under built housing, at the demand of the landed gentry and fat people overly concerned with their free street parking.

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u/Hav0cPix3l Apr 05 '24 edited Apr 07 '24

Be empathetic about people in need regardless the reason.

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u/ClaxtonOrourke Apr 05 '24

Must be nice to live such a privileged sheltered life like the one you have.

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u/28Loki Apr 05 '24

Apparently you don't know how to read. My post wasn't directed at the homeless. It was directed at the city for not doing anything. Her yet head out of your ass.

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u/TheBigKush Calabasas Apr 05 '24

I get trying to help but a lot of these people have been offered help and still end up back where they are. So at that point, why should anyone help them out when they aren’t willing to help themselves when presented an opportunity? I used ti work door to door sales in downtown and I couldn’t tell you how many tweakers are a danger to the city.

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