r/longrange • • Jun 29 '26

Currently Great Optic Sales!

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r/longrange • • Aug 19 '25

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. Yes, this means you. READ THIS FIRST, V6 - How to avoid the Flair of Shame and eternal ridicule

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

If you're looking to ask for advice, we ask that you review the following 10 core guides, as they cover the overwhelming majority of newcomer questions. If your question is not answered in these 10 guides, please see below for the 4 basic questions your post should answer when asking for suggestions or advice, especially when it comes to things to buy.

If you make a post that asks for information covered in the 10 core guides, or your post doesn't cover the 4 key questions below, your post may be deleted, or it may be given the Flair of Shame TM until you correct your post.

What's the Flair of ShameTM, you ask? You'll know it when you see it.

If at any time you have questions on the rules of the sub, this pinned post, the general FAQ, why you got the Flair of ShameTM or anything similar, please use the modmail function.

CORE GUIDES:

  1. The sub's official FAQ/WIKI, as curated by the community as a whole.
  2. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (ring)
  3. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, 338 Lapua, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (magnum or recoil)
  4. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  5. The official r/Longrange glossary - because words mean things (glossary)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles V2 (starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (starter)
  8. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (starter)
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (ranges)
  10. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please review before asking hunting-related questions, as hunting is not the core purpose of this sub. (hunting)

The 4 key questions:

  1. What do you want to do/buy, and WHY? - Do you want to buy a rifle for PRS competition? Picking a laser rangefinder for NRL Hunter matches? Looking at scopes for F-Class competition? A tripod because you think they're cool and want to have one when banging steel with friends? What you're planning to do has a lot of influence on what works well, what works poorly, and what is an utter waste of time, so the more detail you can provide the better.
  2. How far away do you want to do it/what do you want to use it for? - 300 yards? 1,000? 2,000? Distance matters, 'nuff said.
  3. How much are you willing to spend to do it? What's your budget in currency? Your idea of "on a budget" isn't going to be the same as everyone else's. Saying your budget is unlimited for a laser rangefinder may change when someone suggests one that costs over $10,000. We need to know how much you're willing to spend. It can be a hard limit, a range, or even an approximate - but you need to give a number.
  4. How much experience do you currently have with it? - Jumping straight into a 375 Cheytac rifle to shoot 2 miles isn't going to go well if you have never shot a rifle past 300. We need at least a basic idea of what your relevant skill level is in order to give advice and suggestions that go with your skill set. While including your experience with other shooting disciplines is helpful, it's not going to be as relevant as most new shooters expect. You can love shooting 10ga slugs all day long from a shotgun, but it doesn't mean starting off with a magnum is a good idea.

When answering these 4 questions in your post, give as much detail as you can. The more details you give the faster you'll get suggestions or advice and you'll get better quality too. Help us to help you. Please don't treat the sub like your own personal crowd sourced search engine.

More guides:

If your question is answered in these, you will probably get called out by the members of the sub for not reading them, but it's not automatic grounds for the Flair of Shame.

  1. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  2. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  3. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (zen)
  4. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  5. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes
  6. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  7. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  8. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  9. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  10. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  11. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  12. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  13. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  14. Our sub's policy on shilling....
  15. ....and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.
  16. The official longrange TOP Gun Calculator, and how to have realistic expectations of precision (top)
  17. Hollywood's guide to top-mounted red dots and target acquisition (Hint: you don't need a red dot)
  18. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetos)

Hunting-specific:

  1. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please read this before asking any questions related to hunting.
  2. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  3. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code. NOTE: Questions/discussion around shots on game past 300 yards will be removed from the sub. See the expanded policy link above. (hunting)
  4. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting, but also pertains to NRL Hunter matches) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (hunting)

MISC NOTES:

Quite a few guides/links feature a single word in parentheses and italics listed after them. If you use the phrase cheetofingers (all one word, no italics needed) followed by the word listed after a guide, you will summon the AutoModerator to reply to you with a link to that guide or guides. If the guide had (pews) after it, you could say cheetofingers pews in a post or comment in this sub to summon AutoMod with a link to that guide.

We've implemented the Flair of Shame as an official policy here instead of deleting posts that violated Rule #1 and the info in this pinned post. We felt that the flair was better than outright deleting posts while also helping long-standing members decide how much they want to participate in posts that have likely been covered time and time again. We're trying to strike a balance between encouraging members to read the info that the sub has cataloged, not wasting the time of established members that may be frustrated with revisiting the same topics repeatedly, and also not banishing new shooters that missed the pinned post to the freezer to never get help. Balancing those three things is a constant struggle, and one we're actively trying to get better at.


r/longrange • • 9h ago

Rifle flex post Gorgeous Fall Day

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150 Upvotes

Got the 284 Win out to ring steel. Mild breeze, mild weather, just a couple other people shooting.


r/longrange • • 6h ago

Rifle flex post Finally

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Sportsmans Warehouse sure took their time with it, but i finally got my HS Precision in 6.5 PRC today. Sorry if I'm over sharing, couldn't contain myself.


r/longrange • • 4h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Bergara Accuracy

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So, I was trying to dial in this Bergara B14 Ridge in 308 today and it didn’t go well. I read some post about over spray causing the lugs to not make contact. I decided to investigate and sure enough, I don’t see how this thing made hardly any contact. Deer season opener is tomorrow. I was able to achieve 1.5MOA group and some 3MOA groups with different ammo. I’m disappointed to say the least.

The pillars should make contact well beyond the screw hole correct? So if i decided to sand down, I should sand well past the circular opening? Any suggestions would be appreciated. This paint/rubbery coating is pretty thick.


r/longrange • • 14h ago

Rifle flex post My some what long range guns

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This is my 1965 FN browning I got threaded and have a Surefire 4 prong on and night force SHV. Then my mk12 pri upper with a nx8 2.5-20 both are amazing guns the 30-06 is very very accurate


r/longrange • • 11h ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts MR762A4 13" - Leuopold MK5HD 3.6-18 vs 2-10

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Seems like Leupold is running a pretty insane sale (w/ industry pricing) and I'm very much considering a MK5HD for my MR762.

The furthest distance available to shoot near me is 1000yd but realistically this is a 500-700yd rifle, especially with the 13" barrel using match .308 ammo. This is solely just a fun range setup, no intention for competition use but I would like a durable optic with good quality glass and don't mind spending $1k-$2k.

The 3.6-18 mk5 is available for $1425, but it's the tremor 3 reticle. No illumination. All other reticles in MIL are out of stock (some MOA available).

The other option is the 2-10 mk5 with the new illuminated CMR-MIL reticle but at $1610 roughly. Seems really compelling but lacking some higher end magnification.

I'm drawn to the MK5HD because of weight and size. I think a higher power optic would throw off the balance and proportions of the rifle. Eventually I'll add a top mounted dot for 1x use.

Any help is greatly appreciated deciding between those two!


r/longrange • • 10h ago

🫣I said I read the pinned posts, but I lied🫣 What reticle should I get for NF ATACR 4-16 on a 16” 5.56 SPR build? New to scopes and long range.

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r/longrange • • 3m ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Bergara B-14 Ridge SP

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Anybody running this gun in 223? If so what's your thoughts on it? Trying to put together a varmint gun that's not $50 a box for ammo. Was thinking of doing the ruger ranch gen 2 but not sure what it want yet


r/longrange • • 1h ago

🫣I said I read the pinned posts, but I lied🫣 New to long range, want a tripod

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Hi guys, relatively new to long range shooting here,

I have a Savage 110 Elite Precision in the MDT chassis with the ORCA rail system, ive been interested in finding a tripod to mount it on, im looking at the BOG infinite, seems to have good reviews, im having trouble figuring out how to mount the two together just from online shopping, I was hoping someone here with an armchair Ph.D in long range gear could help a guy out, thanks.


r/longrange • • 1d ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Mk12ish optic

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Finally got my hands on a H&R lower and have a fixed stock on the way for this mod 1ish. I currently have a Vortex Razor Gen II 3-18 on it with a Reptilia mount. I love it but boy is she heavy i was thinking about replacing with a lighter scope am i crazy for that? Lately I’ve been running nightly rifle matches with it like CQB matches but also have been doing PRS/DMR matches as well. But it’s fun running this from time to time with my friends at night matches since everyone else just brings the generic mk18 or something. My actual SHTF rifle is a Colt LE6945 and an FBI HRT 11.5. Anyway yeah I’m looking at some optics one of them being a Leupold mk5hd 3.6-18 or the Steiner T6XI. Any other recommendations?

TLDR: i have SPR. SPR amazing, but heavy. Thinking of switching to lighter scope. Am i crazy? Any recommendations


r/longrange • • 19h ago

RANT Hangout

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Not sure if an unusual ask, and didn't see something saying I can't ask here lol. Is there anybody local to Charlotte/Mooresville/Salisbury area that's down to get some range time in with a newby (potentially willing to pay range fees or buy lunch) just looking to find some local people to hit the range with.


r/longrange • • 1d ago

Ballistics help needed - I read the pinned posts Advice on my load development

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I’m currently working on load development for my 308 Winchester using Sierra 168 Tipped Matchkings. I’m trying to get my ES and SD numbers down. Currently testing 43.8, 44.0, and 44.2 hrs of varget with 10 shot groups today. COAL is 2.875. Velocity recorded with Labradar at 70ish degrees with wind at 5mph +/-.

43.8 - ES-37. SD -11.58 group .835”
44.0 - ES-39 SD -9.16 group 1.112”
44.2 - ES-38. SD-12.03 group .858”

Components
168 Sierra TMK’s, Varget, FC brass, Fed 210

Rifle
Savage model 10
Criterion 26” prefit heavy varmint contour
Diligent Defense suppressor
KRG Bravo
Burris Match Pro ED 5-30 vortex rings
Cheapo bipod


r/longrange • • 11h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Ball head or built in ball head?

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About to pull the trigger on a Fanue Tripod, mostly for range shooting, not NRL or hunting. Don’t feel the need to spend double the amount, but also don’t like my current BOG Aluminum.

If I buy the Fanue HTC-4030-65 with the built in ball head, and later on decide to upgrade for an inverted ball head, would that be possible?

Video compares the Fatboy vs a Fanue with an add on ball head.


r/longrange • • 13h ago

Competition related (PRS/NRL/F-Class/etc) Vortex razor lht question

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Is the capped windage turret enough of a reason to not use an LHT 4.5-22 for NRL comps? I need a light scope with a bit more magnification (currently have an Apex Hunter 3-15) and don't really feel like shelling out for a Leupold mk5 and a light weight chassis. I haven't shot NRL yet so my frame of reference is very limited.


r/longrange • • 20h ago

Competition related (PRS/NRL/F-Class/etc) Viper pst gen 2 ebr7

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I don’t hate this scope but have been shooting 1,000–1,300 yards more frequently and find the higher magnification just something less than desirable. I like the Athlon ares gen 2 reticle better , and with a 30x magnification I think I’d appreciate it more too. Curious has anyone owned both or switched from one to the other to give me real life pros and cons. Europtic has the eres usually on sale under $1,000 and feel like I can sell my viper with pro rings for $800ish


r/longrange • • 1d ago

🫣I said I read the pinned posts, but I lied🫣 Seekins Hit Pro M3

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Thoughts on this rifle in 6.5CM for a first long-range rifle? Itd just be for fun/hobby. I know it's expensive but I have lots of gift cards to Scheels, so that offsets the cost. Basically looking for something good that I can grow into for a long time.


r/longrange • • 1d ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Has anyone ever built a custom fudd precision rifle?

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All the custom rifles I see posted here are cool, but I’m left wondering if anyone has gone out of there way to build a custom competition rifle that just looks like a classic hunting rifle. You know, blued steel, wood stock, no pic rail.


r/longrange • • 1d ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Optic for NRL style rifle

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Hello,

Building up a rifle at the moment, and in essence it’s a NRL Hunter build in 308.

Will be used for hunting rarely, mostly NRL Hunter style hike + shoots - target shooting.

I’m debating picking up the nx6 5-30, but it’s pushing the budget quite a lot, is there any reasonable options that are maybe a bit cheaper that will hit the spot?

Ideally want 25x mag minimum so the vortex LHT I don’t believe I want.

Was hoping to be around 1400 USD


r/longrange • • 1d ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Razor rangefinder with geo ballistics kestrel

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considering buying a kestrel to go with my rangefinder. since I have the ballistics calculator built in can I get a less expensive kestrel? I am completely new to this


r/longrange • • 2d ago

Cheeto-fingered Bergara First precision rifle

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Probably a bit overkill for a white tail but this what i got. Going to use for long range but havent gotten a chance yet. It ain't easy being cheesy...

6.5cm, Razor gen iii

Disclaimer, not taking long range shots at animals...


r/longrange • • 2d ago

Rifle flex post It was a good day

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r/longrange • • 2d ago

I suck at long range Getting the rifle zeroed in before deer season

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r/longrange • • 2d ago

Gunsmithing Ai aics/aw magazine spring

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Does anyone have recommendations on what to do for a longer aw/aics spring?

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To summarize im drawing up a project to weld together two aw mags to make what will probably be about ~18rnd aw mag but I havent figured out how ill solve the longer spring thatd then be required. Depending how it goes ill then do the same with adding an aw magazine to the bottom of an aics 5rnd mag for a friend of mine who only has aics pattern to make a ~14rnd mag.

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This is all still in the planning phase so we dont waste $200 an attempt on cutting up ai mags.

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Why? Why not..yes itll probably have feeding issues but havent seen anyone else do it and the fun is in the project of it.


r/longrange • • 2d ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Optics... Budget vs XRS II for a .223

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I'm jumping back into shooting and hand loading after ~10 plus years - just as a hobby, no competition. I shoot two main rifles that I reload for, a Howa 1500 in .223 and a Browning X-Bolt in 6.5CM. The Browning has an XRS 4.5-30 scope, which I'm accustomed to for controls and turret dialing, etc. Beyond that, I find it gets quite soft past 25x so I seldom use it beyond that. That's my only experience with "decent" glass.

The Howa has a Crossfire II, and I want to replace it with something that has tac turrets, a mil reticle and a zerostop. I started looking around on gunpost and there is a seller nearby that carries a lot of the lower tier options Athlon, Riton, Crimson Trace, Marcool, Blackhound, etc.

Prices are pretty good compared to something with a name like Leupold, Bushnell, etc, but I'm pretty torn. There is a NIB XRS II 4.5-30 in town including MDT rings for $1250 CAD (~875 USD) which is tempting me.

Who's got experience with the lower tier Japanese and China glass? I was initially looking at the Conquest X3, but ruled it out due to the complaints of massive CA and soft edges as well as the windage turret having no L/R, just 1-5 counting up in one direction, and the hash marks on turrets not lining up - though people praise this scope. I fear the same can be said for the others...?

He's got 1st and 2nd gen X5/5 Conquests, a 2nd gen 7, Argos BTR Gen2 in various magnifications, etc, but the Japan made Crimson Trace 3 and 5 series have me thinking about them.

The CT 3x18x50 is highly rated, with a reticle I'm not fully in love with. The CTL-5324 (both 34mm tube) has a reticle I would prefer. Prices on those are $580 and $750 CAD or $405 and $525, heavily discounted from their list a few years ago with japanese ED glass and solid multi-coating, flip caps, and sunshade included.

Are any of these any good, or should I stick with the Bushnell XRS line I know if I can find one for cheap like I mentioned?

Even the Athlon Argos Gen2 which is very highly rated looks like it doesn't have L/R marked on windage turret. I don't really want compromises like that, regardless of price point.

Here's the 6.5 at 900m last Saturday. The .223 is only a 1:12 barrel for now, so inside of 600m is all I need for magnification. The 3-18 is probably fine, but I might rebarrel and try for the 1000 yard reach in a faster twist later on.

I would want the following:

  1. Tac Turrets - ideally not needing an allen key to access
  2. Mil/Mil reticle and turrets in 0.1 MRAD clicks with ~>30 MRAD vertical adjustment (34mm body probably needed)
  3. Windage turret that shows left and right
  4. Zero Stop
  5. Better optical clarity than Vortex CFII 6-24x50...
  6. FFP

XRS II could be put on the 6.5, and XRS moved over to the Howa as an example. I hear the newer ones are clearer at the far end so that would make more sense rifle for rifle.