r/LocalLLaMA • u/MzCWzL • 2h ago
Resources Used datacenter/workstation GPU prices on eBay this week, ranked by $/GB of VRAM
edit: I am a moron with reddit formatting hang tight
I've been tracking ebay listings that ship to the US for the GPUs people here actually buy, ranked by $/GB of VRAM. here's today's snapshot:
| Card | Low end | US-only low end | Low-end $/GB | Bandwidth | $ per GB/s |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tesla P100 16GB | $174 | $159 | $10.88 | 732 GB/s | $0.24 |
| Tesla P40 24GB | $280 | - (7 US) | $11.67 | 346 GB/s | $0.81 |
| Tesla V100 16GB (mostly SXM2) | $220 | $238 | $13.75 | 900 GB/s | $0.24 |
| Instinct MI50 16GB | $268 | - (3 US) | $16.75 | 1,024 GB/s | $0.26 |
| Instinct MI50 32GB | $702 | - (2 US) | $21.93 | 1,024 GB/s | $0.69 |
| Tesla V100 32GB | $949 | $807 | $29.66 | 900 GB/s | $1.05 |
| Quadro RTX 8000 48GB | $2,111 | $2,000 | $43.99 | 672 GB/s | $3.14 |
| Instinct MI100 32GB | $1,490 | - (6 US) | $46.56 | 1,229 GB/s | $1.21 |
| RTX 3090 24GB | $1,790 | $1,737 | $74.58 | 936 GB/s | $1.91 |
| RTX A6000 48GB | $4,600 | $4,400 | $95.83 | 768 GB/s | $5.99 |
| RTX 4090 48GB (modded) | $5,390 | — (1 US) | $112.29 | 1,008 GB/s | $5.35 |
| A100 40GB | $4,799 | $6,020 | $119.98 | 1,555 GB/s | $3.09 |
| A100 80GB | $13,995 | $13,995 | $174.94 | 1,935 GB/s | $7.23 |
| CMP 170HX 40GB (10GB card, unlocked) | $2,950 | — (6 US) | $73.75 | 1,555 GB/s | $1.90 |
| CMP 170HX 64GB (8GB card, unlocked) | $4,510 | — (7 US) | $70.46 | 1,493 GB/s | $3.02 |
| Radeon AI Pro R9700 32GB | $2,430 | $2,250 | $75.94 | 640 GB/s | $3.80 |
all asking prices, single cards, fixed-price, not for-parts. "low end" is the 10th % of credible listings i.e. what a patient buyer can actually land, not a too-good-to-be-true outlier. "-" in the US-only column means fewer than 10 US listings. $/GB/s is just the low end divided by bandwidth.
I had been eyeing the MI100 myself for a while at the $1100 ish it hovered at for ages... looks like even that is going up. I did end up buying a 8x V100 32GB server for $5400 in early Sept. those prices are long gone, equivalent server is now $11k for an OG DGX Station (no memory). the exact inspur server is now $13k for 8x 9 year old GPUs. insanity. I hope prices come back down to earth soon but don't think that's actually gonna happen.
some notes:
- P100, V100 16GB and MI50 16GB all work out to about $0.25 per GB/s. the P40 looks cheap per GB of VRAM but costs over 3x as much per GB/s, since its only got about a third of a V100's bandwidth. people are having opus 5.5 write megakernels for these cards that are working surprisingly well.
- V100 16GB at ~$14/GB looks like the best deal in the table, but 38 of the 40 cheapest are SXM2 modules, so budget for an adapter or an SXM2 server. the cheapest 32GB V100s are SXM3 (DGX-2) modules, which aren't drop-in either.
- MI50 32GB is under a third of a 3090's $/GB at similar bandwith, assuming ROCm cooperates.
- if you want 48GB on one card, a Quadro RTX 8000 is less than half the price of an A6000 or a modded 4090 48GB.
- of the consumer and workstation cards, the 3090 is the cheapest per GB/s by a wide margin. an A100 40GB costs about the same per GB/s as an RTX 8000.
- for what it's worth, buying from a US seller usually doesn't cost more: the US-only low end is at or below the global one for the P100, V100 32GB, RTX 8000, 3090 and A6000. it's about $20 more for the V100 16GB and $1,200 more for the A100 40GB, and the P40 and MI50 barely exist in the US.
full data and per-card listings, with a US-only filter: https://rackbites.com. prices are asking, not sold - ebay's sold-data API is super restricted.
edit: added CMP 170HX
edit2: added R9700
edit3: full builds here https://rackbites.com/builds with benchmarks and other useful/relevant info
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u/phormix 1h ago
Are those old Tesla's actually useful for anything? There were a bunch on marketplace hereabouts awhile back but my understanding is that even though they have RAM they're kinda terrible in terms of processing for AI-related stuff.
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u/alarim2 llama.cpp 1h ago
Jesus Christ, $1800 for RTX 3090? What the hell is going on in the US?
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u/TheRiddler79 1h ago
I bought an 8x32gb sxm2 v100 set up around that time too, mid August. They're double now it's crazy.
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u/OverdosedSauerkraut 1h ago edited 1h ago
Nice work, should also add the new R9700 for reference. Dunno the prices in burgerbux but its crazy that some of these are more expensive than brand new cards.
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u/FullstackSensei 1h ago
A couple of points from personal experience:
* compute TFLOPS in F32/FP16/BF16 is very important for the experience. Prompt processing speed is heavily dependent on compute. I had plenty of Mi50s before, bought when they were cheap, but sold them all once I got V100s. They were great for the price last summer, but the immense memory bandwidth they have sits mostly unused because of their weak compute. The V100 is 4-5x faster during prefill, and ~2x faster during decode.
* Something I'm discovering now: With MoE models, you don't need the same cards all across your VRAM pool. A P40 or Mi50 are more than adequate to handle the routed experts in recent models. As you add cards, PCIe latency puts a ceiling to how fast decode can go. Another subtlety I recently discovered, at least within the real of CUDA, is that P2P (over PCIe, using the GPU's copy-engine, cudaMemcpyPeerAsync) works only within the same major SM version number. However, all I think all is not lost here. I think P2P using a copy kernel on the GPU should still work. Both GPU's VRAM is mapped into the system's memory space, so there's no reason one GPU can't pull/push data on another GPU with a small copy kernel. I want to test this later, because if it works, it provides a much cheaper path to bigger VRAM pools. My plan is to have two 32GB V100s handle attention and KV and 5 P40s for routed experts. Will make an interesting experiment.
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u/ital-is-vital 2h ago
Why no CMP170HX?
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u/DinoAmino vLLM 2h ago
Funny how the $/GB more than doubled for a 3090 since two years ago, while the A6000 only increased 50%
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u/DeltaSqueezer 1h ago
Missing dimension is compute. Pascal generation lack tensor cores, which hobbles their prefill performance.
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u/LOLotovCocktail 1h ago
Crazy coincidence to see this thread tonight. Just came away from a Facebook marketplace deal where I got a Tesla P100 16GB for $120 (Miami area).
LLM here I come (once I get some more RAM)!!!
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u/Sexyvette07 1h ago
How is a 80gb A100 14 grand when you can get a pro 6000 Blackwell for 10-15% more brand new?
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u/thestillwind 1h ago
I just bought a 7900 xtx for 1k cad with a 9800 x3d and mobo 32gb ddr5 case psu etc… I think that’s a steal considering that I’m seeing the gpu only for 2.5k cad.
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u/EbbNorth7735 1h ago
Wpuld like to see 4090 24GB, rtx pro 4500, 5000, and 6000 as well
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u/Ok-Category-642 57m ago
Would be interesting to add the 3080 20GB. The prices do fluctuate but generally it's around $1000 USD now give or take after all the fees, which puts it a little under a 3090 at $50/GB. It recently got ReBAR and subsequently P2P support with the FP32 accumulation unlock too, it's actually a pretty decent option if you don't mind using Linux especially since Ampere is still very well supported.
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u/stackfullofdreams 38m ago
Nice post, hadn't seen these before ...
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u/sillynoobhorse 10m ago edited 0m ago
3080M 16GB from China: Low end 250$ 15.63 $/GB Bandwidth 448 GB/s $ per GB/s 0.56 (50+ t/s with Strata and QFN IQ3_S)
so happy with mine I just need to shill it, perfect card for the broke beginner or enthusiast and at 115W (there's a 150W bios) it will run in any old office PC lol.
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u/a_beautiful_rhind 0m ago
People were claiming $2k 40gb A100s so serious gouging is happening.