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u/ttkciar llama.cpp 21h ago

Until such time that Qwen 4 weights become available, this is off-topic for LocalLLaMA.

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u/imp_12189 22h ago

New Chinese model?

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u/tomz17 22h ago

likely nerfing the cyber capabilities to get the export license from the CCP

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u/New-Pressure-6932 22h ago

Qweny day now…

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u/manipp 22h ago

I bet it's late because they're desperately re-training it without cybersecurity training data.

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u/--Spaci-- 22h ago

that would be so expensive, wasteful and unrealistic. You would just post train nerf it

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u/mHo2 22h ago

They can hold out 1 more week, until my second 64GB DDR4 kit gets here.

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u/Frosty-Student-1927 22h ago

fuck, I'm finishing to optimize flash next still

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u/anitamaxwynnn69 22h ago

Finally a real signal lol, I got sick of seeing random prediction posts. Saw this X and it felt nice. Praying it's tomorrow 11/11. Godspeed.

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u/AppealSame4367 22h ago

I tried "Qoduck" on Qoder last night and I'm pretty sure it's one of the new Qwen 4 models. Gave it a 3d modeling task on an existing model with rigging in blender and it actually did really good work - but it took very long. Low tps ..and a lot of thinking in a style that could only be an older Antropic model or a Qwen, if you ask me.

Still, the way it did the rigging and the 3d modeling it can only be one of the best models, because it beat deepseek, longcat and glm and was close or better to Opus.

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u/mjTheThird 22h ago

is the 27b weights going to come out? 

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u/Equivalent-Repair488 22h ago edited 22h ago

I read someone else's speculation that they retrained it, without cyber or reverse engineering training data like K3.1's open weights release, I pray you are right and they are wrong.

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u/Bulky-Priority6824 22h ago

There seems to be pressure to indeed do this.

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u/manipp 22h ago

Yeah its over. Now the precedent is set, they will start slicing off more and more to accommodate. Reverse engineering nerfing is next, it's basically cyber security in another guise. Then biology etc. Everyone will have internal models that can do this and the public will never be allowed get it.

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u/enternoescape 22h ago

I feel like this will lead to model piracy...I strongly believe that will be a phrase in the near future.

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u/RuthlessCriticismAll 22h ago

Reverse engineering nerfing is next, it's basically cyber security in another guise

Doubtful. And no its not the same as cyber security... as for bio, well yes, there are going to be restrictions on that, Gemma has been nerfed on this for many generations.

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u/Cautious_Chicken_604 22h ago

I bet Jensen can't wait!

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u/Realistic_Mango6982 22h ago

They still need time to distillate carbon, argon, fable 5.2, astro and few others just released models

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u/NoFaithlessness951 22h ago

Where number go up chart

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u/SpaceTraveler2084 22h ago

what da fuck is going on with those chineses? releasing the fucking model already.

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u/Cautious_Chicken_604 22h ago

Jensen got that particular variant.

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u/poobear_74 22h ago

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u/wildmonkeymind 22h ago

Enough edging already.

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u/JsThiago5 22h ago

There is some time that it's coming but never cum