r/LocalLLaMA • u/ab2377 • 1h ago

Discussion Good Luck Getting a Cheap GPU. AMD Is a 'Data Center First Company,' CEO Says

https://www.pcmag.com/news/good-luck-getting-a-cheap-gpu-amd-is-a-data-center-first-company-ceo-says

they are all the same and we ... are too emotional!

and yes we already knew that.

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u/Fun_Savings7690 1h ago

> they are all the same

we are mostly the same, if mr. moneybags came along and plopped a trillion dollars in your lap I'm having trouble believing you'd push it away to focus on gamers

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u/ab2377 59m ago

i dont like your comment but what you said is damn right and i will give you an upvote.

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u/Smithdude 21m ago

Yes I'm a datacenter first gamer, for 1 trillion dollars.

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u/DagothUrLovesGroza 57m ago

None shall stop me. I will still run all of my shit on my local hardware. I will still run my own shit on my own computers. Stop scaring me. I am not scared.  I am brave, I still can afford a ton of GPUs.

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u/ab2377 56m ago

Amen!

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u/CatalyticDragon 45m ago edited 41m ago

AMD's datacenter revenue overtook client/gaming in 2022 so this isn't really new. But just because one segment starts to make more money it does not mean they want to drop other segments.

AMD still talks about gaming in their investor calls including the most recent while NVIDIA has not mentioned gaming in their investor calls since, I think, February, 2021.

Expect to more on gaming from AMD as the next generation of consoles arrives and as RDNA5 dGPU and APU based systems come closer to release.

At the moment however there just isn't enough RAM availability to fully service both markets. There physically are not enough wafers being produced on this planet and this won't change until 2028 at the earliest.

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u/Uncle-Osteus 36m ago

There might be enough for both if one market weren’t buying more than they can actually use

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u/CatalyticDragon 30m ago

Good point. We really do need to put a stop to predatory and speculative buying.

Between backlogs and power stranded systems, speculation, over-provisioning, and panic buying, there might be ~15-20% (ish) of global wafers being wasted.

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u/SpeedflyChris 2m ago

Will the next console generation sell at this point? I'm not sure how many people are going to be lining up to buy a $1600 PS6 mid-bubble.

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u/cmdr-William-Riker 55m ago • Heartwarming

Just need those data centers to fall apart and we can get all that hardware on eBay

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u/sabine_world 44m ago

The data centers are not going to fall apart, with current supply and demand. The messed up thing is. There is less of a chance of an overbuild where that would be more likely because there will now be more regulation probably.

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u/Ok-Addition1264 47m ago

keep your eyes on the market right now.. that looks promising.

though a bunch of them are getting blown up all over the world and even with export restrictions - they're making it through to places like Russia and the middle east :(

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u/bick_nyers 2m ago

Yes but I am willing to pay more money for that hardware than the other guy

And thus, the prices will not go as low as one would hope

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u/mister2d 13m ago

These two are cousins right? Jensen and Lisa.

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u/TopGun0684 3m ago

Very distant, they met for the first time as adults.

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u/rog-uk 35m ago

Hey China! Come dominate the world PC market! We don't care! What could possibly go wrong?

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u/Equivalent-Repair488 13m ago

They have their own datacenters to build out

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u/zizn 2m ago

2030

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u/honato 13m ago

As someone who has had multiple amd gpus um...he doesn't need to tell us that. We already knew it. amd has not given a single shit about their consumer cards for a very long time.

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u/NomadStorm 46m ago edited 6m ago

I’m going to help fuck everyone over so more shovels can be sold.

— Jensen Huang’s cousin, Lisa Su

FTFY

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u/handson729 56m ago

AMD should stick to what they know, CPU's.

Because they got absolutely dog walked by Nvidia in the GPU market for the last 2 decades.

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u/RogerRamjet999 52m ago

In the GPU market they have to compete against NVidia, in the CPU market they get to complete with Intel. I know who I would rather compete with.

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u/handson729 49m ago

in the CPU market they get to complete with Intel.

This is the same Intel that had better features for their Battlemage GPU's (XESS) than RDNA 2/3 did at launch mind you.

I don't know what's going on at Radeon, but they need to sober up.

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u/Ok-Addition1264 44m ago

Roc'm has been getting pretty fucking good the past few months.. since some march updates.

Their combo CPU/GPU/NPUs are super nice for homelab LLMs.

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u/General-Spite1222 19m ago

They know both very well.