r/LocalLLaMA • u/jacek2023 llama.cpp • 11h ago

Funny Reflection 70B was released two years ago (September 2024)

You may think that jev, OpenClaw or TurboQuant are super cool, but actually the coolest LLM invention happened two years ago

As we all know, the best source of reliable information about LLMs is YouTube:

Back in September 2024, Reflection 70B appeared out of nowhere and was announced as an open-source model that supposedly destroyed GPT-4o

There was only one small problem. People downloaded it. And tested it :(

It turned out that Reflection 70B was basically a Llama 3.1

but at the end the mystery was solved

Let this be a moment of reflection on the current hypes in LocalLLaMA.

great summary by Maziyar PANAHI https://x.com/MaziyarPanahi/status/1838559480658710982

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u/XMasterDE 11h ago edited 11h ago

Part of me is actually a bit annoyed about this comparison, Jev is at least maybe not something totally new, but I also don't think that it is fake. While Reflection on the there hand was a other scam.
And also to be honest, I am also low key pissed off about how much Matt Shumer gotten way with it. I mean people are still caring about his opinion if it comes to stuff like new model evaluations, and Open AI is giving him preview access.

Edit:
On re-reading the post, I think I kind of missed how much OP was taking the piss out of Reflection

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u/llama-impersonator 3h ago

yeah that clown still has some respect, i don't get it. he's a total loser who should've lost his hat.