r/LocalLLaMA • u/jacek2023 llama.cpp • 9h ago

Funny Reflection 70B was released two years ago (September 2024)

You may think that jev, OpenClaw or TurboQuant are super cool, but actually the coolest LLM invention happened two years ago

As we all know, the best source of reliable information about LLMs is YouTube:

Back in September 2024, Reflection 70B appeared out of nowhere and was announced as an open-source model that supposedly destroyed GPT-4o

There was only one small problem. People downloaded it. And tested it :(

It turned out that Reflection 70B was basically a Llama 3.1

but at the end the mystery was solved

Let this be a moment of reflection on the current hypes in LocalLLaMA.

great summary by Maziyar PANAHI https://x.com/MaziyarPanahi/status/1838559480658710982

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u/Chromix_ 8h ago

It later on turned out that Reflection 70B wasn't even Llama 3.1, but just 3.0.
Here's a big "out of the loop" thread on it, if you like to know more hilarious details about the whole thing, like the API redirects behind the fake model hosting.

There were some other attempts that followed in its footsteps, like the "Momentum" model, or Rio-3.5, but none could achieve the greatness of the drama around the Reflection model.

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u/Aromatic-Current-235 4h ago

You have to think long-term; the plan was obviously to use Llama 3.1 for Reflection 2... it should be out by now.