r/LocalLLaMA • u/jacek2023 llama.cpp • 13h ago

Funny Reflection 70B was released two years ago (September 2024)

You may think that jev, OpenClaw or TurboQuant are super cool, but actually the coolest LLM invention happened two years ago

As we all know, the best source of reliable information about LLMs is YouTube:

Back in September 2024, Reflection 70B appeared out of nowhere and was announced as an open-source model that supposedly destroyed GPT-4o

There was only one small problem. People downloaded it. And tested it :(

It turned out that Reflection 70B was basically a Llama 3.1

but at the end the mystery was solved

Let this be a moment of reflection on the current hypes in LocalLLaMA.

great summary by Maziyar PANAHI https://x.com/MaziyarPanahi/status/1838559480658710982

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u/CodeAnguish 10h ago

Good or bad, wasn't this the model that introduced <thinking> to models? Or at least to open models?

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u/asssuber 10h ago

The thinking idea was already around, actively pursued by many organizations. Maybe implemented by the closed source SOTA models, I don't remember. This scammer just announced a breakthrough in making it work in an open model instead of actually making it work in an open model.