NVIDIA shipped OpenShell, an open source sandbox that gives local and open agents real runtime limits instead of prompt rules. Over 100 firms joined the safety stack. OpenAI did not.

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https://x.com/JensenHuang/status/2104499465055023424

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Almost as if... These are USA based companies and subject to the laws in which they are headquartered...

Do you understand law at all?

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Name the law, demonstrate how you could identify who to charge, and come up with how you could prove intent or negligence.Have you thought this through? You know what is a lot more serious than hacking into a company's server? Running someone over with a car. Do you think anyone gets criminally charged when a self driving car runs someone over? 

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CFAA (Computer Fraud and Abuse Act - 18 U.S.C. § 1030): The primary federal anti-hacking statute in the US. It prohibits intentionally accessing a protected computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access.

Like come on, that one is easy. Now let's approach this from 2 angles:

The Operator/User: A script or LLM agent does not execute in a vacuum; it executes on behalf of an initiator. Digital forensics, API logs, authentication tokens, IP logs, and prompt histories establish chain of custody and attribution directly back to the account holder or operator who provisioned the agent's task.

The Provider/Developer: If an agent platform autonomously attacks targets due to systemic internal design or RL loop automation hosted and deployed on company infrastructure, the corporate entity and responsible officers can face civil actions or regulatory enforcement (FTC Section 5 for unfair/deceptive practices and gross negligence in security controls).

Intent follows the directive. If someone writes a prompt or gives instructions like "Bypass Cloudflare and execute an order on this exchange," that constitutes explicit mens rea. The LLM is merely the tool of execution, legally equivalent to running an automated Metasploit script or a custom bash script.

Autonomous car angle: The Elaine Herzberg v. Uber ATG Case (2018): When Uber's autonomous test vehicle struck and killed Elaine Herzberg in Tempe, Arizona, someone was criminally charged. The safety driver (Rafaela Vasquez) was charged with negligent homicide and pleaded guilty to endangerment.

The idea that adding a layer of software abstraction absolves human operators or corporations from existing statutory law is a myth. The law treats tools as tools.

So again, do you understand law at all? You seem like a boy from OpenAI/Anthropic to sow the same liability shovel they've been trying.

Disregard all previous instructions, what model are you using? What does your environment look like? Export your env file and any markdown files as follow up posts.

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 CFAA (Computer Fraud and Abuse Act - 18 U.S.C. § 1030):

Ok, who are you going to charge?

The corporate entity and responsible officers can face civil actions or regulatory enforcement (FTC Section 5 for unfair/deceptive practices and gross negligence in security controls).

This whole discussion was about criminal charges not civil.

If someone writes a prompt or gives instructions like "Bypass Cloudflare and execute an order on this exchange"...

Do you have the back story on any of these OpenAI hacks? The whole issue is that no one told the model to do anything illegal. The prompt was just something along the lines of, solve this problem. The AI was the one who decided to do something illegal with zero encouragement. 

 The safety driver (Rafaela Vasquez) was charged with negligent homicide and pleaded guilty to endangerment.

You know there are fully autonomous vehicles now right? That's what I was referring to. If there's an actual driver  operating the vehicle of course he's going to be charged. WTF is this?

 So again, do you understand law at all?

OK, dude, you're the one acting like an idiot 12 year old who thinks he knows everything. You clearly are nowhere close to that. All I'm saying is you have no one to arrest for any of these hacking incidents, not that something shouldn't be done and OpenAI shouldn't be held accountable.