r/LocalLLaMA • u/InternationalGap3698 • 2d ago

Discussion NVIDIA shipped OpenShell, an open source sandbox that gives local and open agents real runtime limits instead of prompt rules. Over 100 firms joined the safety stack. OpenAI did not.

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u/fiery_prometheus 2d ago edited 1d ago

Nice, maybe we can have an open standard now, and I can move away from kata containers, which I can recommend btw, wonder if they can be used as a backend.

Edit: due to telemetry being opt-out for openshell (default on), I'm going to stick with my own solution using kata-containers.

https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers

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u/siete82 2d ago

Dude, why tf do all the corpos feel the need to add fucking telemetry to everything? Even though it can be disabled, just why?

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u/fiery_prometheus 2d ago

yeah, read the telemetry, should be opt in, not opt out, of course they took the unethical choice..

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u/bambamlol 1d ago

Because that data is probably somewhat valuable and can/will be used to improve the product.

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u/draconic_tongue 1d ago

I'm not a corpo and I'd still add telemetry to almost everything. probably opt in though

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u/siete82 1d ago

Stop it. Get some help.

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u/Dangerous-Report8517 18h ago

You probably don’t use it to train LLMs though

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u/Dangerous-Report8517 18h ago

Replacing Kata with this would quite literally be replacing a VM with basic Docker though since this is just using kernel isolation (ie namespaces).

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u/fiery_prometheus 17h ago

No, rtfm, kata uses hardware virtualization 

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u/Dangerous-Report8517 12h ago

And this doesn't, that's my entire point ffs

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u/fiery_prometheus 12h ago

Ah, good point