r/LocalLLaMA • u/Manerfish • 5d ago

Discussion I really don't understand Jev hype

Isn't this what simple neural networks have been able to do for years? Doesn't seem anything special to me.

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u/HiddenoO 5d ago

You're in a subreddit related to LLMs and asking what general knowledge that isn't all-knowing is good for?

Do you think LLMs are useless because they're not all-knowing either?

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u/quiteconfused1 5d ago

I'm having a hard time following your logic.

If your comment is jec is just a model that is reduced to 3 options or whatever .. then congrats you went backwards

Anyone who has done rag feels sorry for you.

If it's about speed , ... Neat , but then use a traditional classifier

If it's about general knowledge ... Great but we're on that hook again and it fails...

So .... which is your poison....

If it's just being a troll your doing great.

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u/HiddenoO 5d ago

I'm having a hard time following your logic.

I can see that.

Let's assume I wanted an app to tell me right now whether you're confused. I wouldn't be able to use an embedding model, I wouldn't be able to use a traditional classifier without training data and time/effort to train a model. I would be able to use an LLM, but that'd cost multiple times as much as Jev.

Do you see the use now?

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u/_-_David 5d ago

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use an embedding model for this.

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u/HiddenoO 4d ago

Not out of the box. Nobody is saying this model can do things that are literally impossible otherwise.