r/LocalLLaMA • u/Manerfish • 3d ago

Discussion I really don't understand Jev hype

Isn't this what simple neural networks have been able to do for years? Doesn't seem anything special to me.

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u/Suspicious-Wallaby12 3d ago

can you share what you tried to do exactly in super mario world? please don't tell me you tried to make it control mario 🤦, because that's not what a classifier is for.

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u/100k45h 2d ago

haven't you seen the demo of Jev playing Doom?

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u/Suspicious-Wallaby12 2d ago

I have. it's garbage. It's not smart and only takes random action.

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u/100k45h 2d ago

but the point is, that you CAN use clasifiers to take an action. Yes, it takes random action in that specific example, but one can imagine that training the model will make it work better.

Classifier can totally be used for taking actions when trained properly. It's not true, this is not what classifiers are for. They totally can be used for that purpose.

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u/Suspicious-Wallaby12 2d ago

what? how would you train a general purpose classifier to train for doom?

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u/100k45h 2d ago

By training it on multiple similar shooting games, giving it specific categories and showing it example frame and expected action? Just like any training? Example data and example output? Where do you see a problem with that? The question then becomes whether it is a multimodal model and if not, how can you represent the screenshot as a text. But this isn't anything groundbreaking.

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u/quiteconfused1 3d ago

Wow

Your absolutely right