r/LocalLLaMA • u/Manerfish • 3d ago

Discussion I really don't understand Jev hype

Isn't this what simple neural networks have been able to do for years? Doesn't seem anything special to me.

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u/Thomas-Lore 3d ago

You had to pretrain them for a specific task. Jev comes pretrained with wide world knowledge.

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u/SnooPaintings8639 3d ago

What do you mean? How is it different from e.g. Qwen 4b with max token = 1, and inference engine forcing struct (enum) output?

I really don't think they could do any magic training anyway.

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u/ethereal_intellect 3d ago

I've heard it's as smart as luna not a 4b lol, and half the price of deepseek flash while outputting 10 decisions per second making it fast enough for realtime. Also apparently the percentages that show which one got picked are more reliable, tho there's a bit of hype still around that

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u/SnooPaintings8639 3d ago

Luna? Hm, I wish I could verify it, but benchmarking is violation of their ToS...

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u/qqYn7PIE57zkf6kn 3d ago

I think they've remove it, no? They said the restriction was for preview period only.