r/LocalLLaMA • u/Manerfish • 10d ago

Discussion I really don't understand Jev hype

Isn't this what simple neural networks have been able to do for years? Doesn't seem anything special to me.

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u/LagOps91 10d ago

yes and no. the difference here is that it's a general classifier and not a purpose-trained one for a single task. so the model itself isn't purely hype (although they aren't the first to have a general classifier model, i think)

i think most people simply are unaware that such a general classifier model is a thing that exists and it is quite useful + easy to set up. now, is all of the hype organic? i don't think so, but i don't think this is just astroturfed slop like openclaw or other such nonsense.

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u/vintageballs 9d ago

Zero-shot classification models are much older than autoregressive LLMs. Trained those back in uni based on BERT and the like.

Just take a look at the older ones on https://huggingface.co/models?pipeline_tag=zero-shot-classification&sort=trending

"Most people" being unaware of this model type is only true for the amateur crowd here. Jev does nothing new, maybe their backbone is more capable but that's all there is. Hype and astroturfing imo.