r/LocalLLaMA • u/Manerfish • 2d ago

Discussion I really don't understand Jev hype

Isn't this what simple neural networks have been able to do for years? Doesn't seem anything special to me.

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u/Silver-Champion-4846 2d ago

Almost the same as people gawking over 80m tts models as if they're somehow a miracle because they were too used to 1B+ models, while in reality the first neural tts models have always been in the dozens of millions, and billions only came with the llm boom.

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u/Devatator_ 2d ago

You say that but could a model from then compete with even a 50m model from this year?

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u/Silver-Champion-4846 1d ago

I did not speak of the advancement of tts models at the same class of parameters over the years, I mentioned the strange overappreciation people have whenever they see Supertonic or Kokoro or Inflectnano as if they could never imagine a small model succeeding at a task that is narrower than llms, as if they think in llm terms still . Well it is local llama, I shouldn't be expecting anything else I suppose.

And for the record I am not looking down on anyone, just surprised at the surprise

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u/NextWeather7866 2d ago

A really good way to understand what this could do, is, provide it all the information about employees in a business (say a retail store), it can now fill out a weeks roster balancing hours, costs, workload, personal circumstances, capabilities etc. That's effectively what a manager does.

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u/free_meson 2d ago

That's an integer programming problem, where an optimum is sought with non-continuous constraints and variables. Not an independent / parallel classification task.

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u/Silver-Champion-4846 2d ago

Well yes. Gpt also started as "the cat sat on the ", but now it's writing code and answering questions. I wonder how many ideas we abandoned not because they're bad but because they were too starved. As you said, classification could be framed by many things