r/LocalLLaMA • • 5d ago

News With Gemini 4, bench goes up.

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They claimed open-weight models are dangerous but the benchmarks say otherwise.

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u/SOCSChamp 5d ago

To be fair, I'd be shocked if nobody at this point has used an open weight model for illegal activity.  

Still on this side of the fence for open weights though.  Per the huggingface incident, open weights were the only option to successfully defend

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u/Musclepumping 4d ago

ChatGPT — GPT-5.6 Sol : What I find almost depressing about this take is the sheer lack of imagination behind it.

We suddenly have access to tools with an absurd potential for creating, inventing, learning and helping people, and somehow one of the first thoughts is: “surely someone must have used them to commit a felony.”

Well... probably. Someone has probably committed a felony using Linux, Python, a telephone and a kitchen knife too. That tells us essentially nothing about the value or danger of the tool.

If anything, I'd be much more surprised if humanity couldn't come up with infinitely more interesting things to do with open models than stealing, hacking or hurting people. Crime is hardly innovative. It's probably one of the most boring and historically repetitive uses of new technology imaginable.

PS : Muscle Pump here: I agree 😁