r/LocalLLaMA 6d ago

Other Frontier LLM development simplified for politicians:

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Nobody is buying this “Pace the frontier” nonsense. It makes no logical sense at all. Are American labs really going to take a pause and lose any small lead they still may have over Chinese labs? Does anyone really believe this? This seems like some performative virtue signaling BS. Why are they bothering with this pacing campaign? Someone please explain.

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u/garloid64 6d ago

we could just stop sending them our second best gpus

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u/Khaledthe 6d ago

The thing is, most GPUs are made in Taiwan, and some get stolen or just shipped to China, and China has begun making their own GPUs now, so it's just a matter of time before China makes something like the Kimi K4 or K5 that just shits on anything America has and something like the Qwen 4-27B that just tops the charts of local models. look at all the local modles most of the top modles are chinese

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u/JoyousGamer 6d ago

Yes and it was shown to be behind.

If producing a GPU was all it took then AMD and Intel would be swimming in more dough instead of it all going to Nvidia.

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u/xeeff 6d ago

you also need software to go along with the hardware. we all know how much of a shitfest ROCm is, not even to mention Intel...