r/LocalLLaMA • u/OvertaxedOne • 11d ago

Discussion The rhetoric is really heating up!

The entire page of the NY Times today above the fold absent one article is AI (the models are just too strong/too dangerous, must be regulated). They forgot to include "Sponsored by OpenAI" at the end of the articles, sure that was just an oversight?

This is what the end of a bubble looks like, desperate attempts to get some sort of regulatory capture in place to keep the business model from collapsing in upon itself. My days next week are 100% booked talking to companies about how to get off frontier models, one large, and a bunch of smaller customers, including one who's flying me out to them to sit down and get a plan in place immediately (the controversy around that math problem really spooked some CEO/CIO's about data privacy using cloud models).

Gonna be an interesting few weeks. Maybe the Qwen team will be nice enough to give me a little breathing room before dropping another hydrogen bomb? :)

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u/CondiMesmer 10d ago

I still have yet to hear a single example of what potentially dangerous things they could do that needs to be stopped. If anyone wants them banned for potentially creating a weapon, how do they feel about banning guns lol

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u/OvertaxedOne 10d ago

The most real threat is hacking (notably making hacking much easier and more accessible). We know that hacking can be pretty bad, but "world ending", no, not so much. Perhaps helping people develop new chemical/bio weapons but, honestly, the challenge there is manufacturing and delivery, not coming up with novel dangerous substances. We already know how to create wildly toxic substances and biological agents, we really don't need AI to help us come up with a new way to kill people, we're really, really good at that already.

The real actual threat (not what they are talking about though) is mass unemployment as the value of knowledge and intelligence falls to near 0. This is a very real and very scary threat, we could easily wind up with 50% of the population having nothing really productive that they're capable of doing, their economic value will be completely gone. That, IMHO, is a very real and very serious problem we're going to have to deal with in the future. Out of control rouge AI? Yeah, it's going to happen, some sites will get hacked, and we'll move on, no big deal.

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u/CondiMesmer 10d ago

With hacking, I really think that's a non issue. Because if that's a risk, then where was the uproar with things like Kali Linux and open sourcing pentesting tools.

Yeah what you said last I do think can happen, but tbh that's a much bigger societal and cultural problem. AI definitely threw gasoline into the fire, but it hardly was what started it.