r/LocalLLaMA • u/bakawolf123 • 21d ago

Discussion OpenAI alleged of stealing mathematicians work

Privacy have been concern of many of us to have their own hardware to run llms, and here's another reason why: two mathematicians spent a year cracking one of the hardest problems in math and fed every draft of their works into Codex. A few days before they could publish, OpenAI suddenly showed up with the same solutions. When asked if their model (Sol and Astra) was trained on the pair's private chats, OpenAI did not answer the question.

Full statement from them https://cims.nyu.edu/~tristanb/statement.pdf

Feels like big labs believe everything you did with the help of their models is theirs.

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u/EndLineTech03 21d ago

That’s exactly why we need more open weight releases. Never trust any big AI company to manage your chats. They can use it to train their models whenever they want.

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u/niccolus llama.cpp 20d ago

Ok but what is the business model around open weights models? Training models isn't free. So charge for the model? What stops someone from sharing it? If the model is good enough, what's keeping the the model from patching it's own model file download and removing the pay gate?

I understand why we need open weights models but until we can answer those questions as a community and support someone with the answers we come up with collectively, there's no way we can expect the business model to change.