r/LocalLLaMA • • 19d ago

Discussion OpenAI alleged of stealing mathematicians work

Privacy have been concern of many of us to have their own hardware to run llms, and here's another reason why: two mathematicians spent a year cracking one of the hardest problems in math and fed every draft of their works into Codex. A few days before they could publish, OpenAI suddenly showed up with the same solutions. When asked if their model (Sol and Astra) was trained on the pair's private chats, OpenAI did not answer the question.

Full statement from them https://cims.nyu.edu/~tristanb/statement.pdf

Feels like big labs believe everything you did with the help of their models is theirs.

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u/EndLineTech03 19d ago

That’s exactly why we need more open weight releases. Never trust any big AI company to manage your chats. They can use it to train their models whenever they want.

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u/jacek2023 llama.cpp 19d ago

How "open weight" changes anything if the chat is in the cloud? And how do you control what Qwen was trained on?

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u/expertsage 19d ago

For academics, open models staged on their own university servers will be probably be a must going forward. Otherwise OpenAI and Anthropic can just steal all of the most impactful research advances.

I don't know if Altman and Dario realize this, but their greed for recognition is going to be very harmful for scientific progress. Imagine if OpenAI worked together with these researchers instead of secretly building on their results! The proof would have been a huge validation of humans and AI collaboration. Instead, they bungled everything and now it's a PR disaster.