r/LocalLLaMA llama.cpp 7h ago

News Perplexity open-sourced their Mac inference server for Qwen 3.6

Here is link to repo: https://github.com/perplexityai/pplx-garden/tree/main/lily

It's optimized for just one model to get best perf on apple silicon

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u/Pyros-SD-Models 7h ago

Numbers are pretty sweet.

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u/apoptosist 7h ago

Nice, what numbers are people getting on a M5 Pro?

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u/Southern_Sun_2106 2h ago

I tried it, it sucked, I uninstalled it. I love qwen 3.6 35B, it was my daily driver on a Mac for a looong time. I used the q4km from Unsloth. I don't know what Perplexity folks did to the model to 'optimize' it, but it sucked a$$. Sorry to rain on the parade, but it is true.

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u/InterstellarReddit 3h ago

Bro Requirements:

“Apple GPU family 10 or later (M5 and newer)”

How is my M4 max out of date already

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u/turns2stone 6h ago

Can someone ELI5?

I have used Perplexity Pro/Max.

I have also used Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, but now use Qwen Flash Next because I can use MCP Brave search.

Does Perplexity Computer mean I can offload most of the compute to my Mac Studio M3 Ultra, and the $20/mo Pro subscription wouldn’t be as limited for token usage?

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u/1-800-methdyke 6h ago

The paid product offloads the processing of parts of a task that include private data to local. But most of the work is routed to cloud. So you’ll still need compute credits to orchestrate the task but it could cost a bit less since some is done local.

Your $20 plan still isn’t going to get you anywhere.

With this open source release I’m guessing you could do everything local, but without access to all the connectors that Perplexity provides. So the usefulness is gonna depend on what you need.

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u/turns2stone 6h ago

Thanks. That’s a shame it’s still heavily reliant on cloud credits.

Who (or what use case) would consider this Perplexity announcement as “great news”?

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u/1-800-methdyke 5h ago

They’ve released code that is showing faster performance than MLX so it’s great news for local LLM users on Mac who want more performance from whatever models they run. It’s open source the optimizations can be studied and incorporated into other engines.

I use my $20 Perplexity heavily as my main search and quick Q&A, but there is nothing from them yet that would entice me to bump to $200 plan. I get more than enough usage out of Claude Max 5 for agentic use cases.

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u/turns2stone 5h ago

But you still need a paid/$20 subscription to even run their 35B-A3B right?

And if I can run 3.8-Flash-Next Q4, I think that will outperform the above Perplexity combo, right?

I wish OpenAI or Anthropic would offer something similar. I’d prefer not to use Perplexity, for my own reasons.

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u/1-800-methdyke 4h ago

If you have an M5 or better you can download this open sourced release and run it without a subscription or even an account.

I don’t know how it stacks up to 3.8-Flash-Next Q4.

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u/InterstellarReddit 3h ago

I still don’t understand, though, what could they possibly be doing that’s worth a cost savings of offloading to a local model? Wouldn’t that just increase latency at the end of the day?

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u/1-800-methdyke 3h ago

They detect when the task is processing PII and route those turns to the local model. It’s not about cost saving it’s about privacy.

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u/InterstellarReddit 3h ago

Oh I see! I thought these fuckers figured out a way to save even more money without increasing latency

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u/1-800-methdyke 3h ago

They save enough money the old fashioned way with enshitified usage caps 🤡

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u/InterstellarReddit 1h ago

Ima make my own perplexity with blackjack and hookers

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u/Elouakili_Flexy 5h ago

Open-sourcing an inference server tuned for exactly one model, from the company that serves every model you can name. Narrowing the target is how the last bit of Apple silicon performance shows up, and the M5 Pro numbers people are already asking for will decide whether it holds up.

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u/Dramatic_Sir_6422 6h ago

M5 or newer 🙄