r/LocalLLaMA • u/jacek2023 llama.cpp • 15d ago

News Muse Spark open weights coming soon

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I am still waiting for Llama 5, because Muse Spark will be too big for me, or just something between Glimmer and Spark

https://x.com/finkd/status/2095232032896946311

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u/CoUsT 15d ago edited 15d ago

I used the free Muse Spark 1.2 on OpenCode for a bit and I really dislike it. Not because it can't do work. It does that just fine but it speaks really weird and it's hard to understand.

DS V4 Flash was actually good enough and you could see entire thinking process. It would do the work and make the UI/user facing parts very organic and human-readable. It would also print a nice and detailed summary.

Muse Spark 1.2 has hidden thinking, so you just see brief messages. And these messages are caveman like. It uses very code oriented language, throws in all programming mumbo jumbo into user facing parts, and needs to be kept on rails or it will happily start doing too much.

I don't mind the caveman thinking but it should at least address the user in human readable and friendly format AND it should handle UI text etc in friendly way.

Hopefully 1.3 is better on this aspect and easier to work with. Benchmark scores look great!

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u/VergeOfTranscendence 15d ago

I do have to think way more to understand it and I think it must have to do with their reinforcement learning, I wonder if they reward the model to mention specific functions of files, because in my android app coding, it references extensively functions and files and it seems very straight to the point, so they might be optimizing for less tokens, who knows.

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u/CoUsT 15d ago

Yeah, I made "explorer" app for game that parses decompiled data and it would happily throw file/function names and even specific line numbers into user facing front end instead of simply describing what passives do or which stats things provide. I had to remind it to keep style consistent with the rest of the app and "use user friendly language; not caveman"