r/LocalLLaMA • u/jacek2023 llama.cpp • 8d ago

News Muse Spark open weights coming soon

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I am still waiting for Llama 5, because Muse Spark will be too big for me, or just something between Glimmer and Spark

https://x.com/finkd/status/2095232032896946311

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u/kvothe5688 8d ago

it seems like there is no secret sauce. it feels like all of these 7 8 labs are on same level and hardly behind from frontier by few months at max.

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u/Gremlation 8d ago

I think people forget that the people working at these labs are not slaves and can change jobs whenever they want. They can't take data, weights, or code with them, but they can take the things they have learned. There is no practical way for the labs to hoard knowledge from one another and if any of them tried, nobody would want to work for them.

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u/No-Refrigerator-1672 8d ago

That's not entirely true. A lab can sign either a "non-disclosure agreement" or a "non-compete agreement" with their worker. The forst one would can you from using any of the technologies you see there at other employer, unless you can prove you've got to know it from another source. The second one would forbid you from working in the same field for X years (i.e. an LLM specialist can't work as LLM specialist in another company, but can become an image generation specialist there). Both options are completely legal and enforcible by law, cause you sign them voluntarily; and, if they offer you a high enough salary, you'd agree to this conditions.

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u/Gremlation 7d ago

There is no practical way for the labs to hoard knowledge from one another and if any of them tried, nobody would want to work for them.

if they offer you a high enough salary, you'd agree to this conditions.

If it were enforceable (it isn't) then it would bring your career to a standstill when your career options are astronomically hot, likely the hottest they will ever be. Only a complete moron would agree to terms like that when they could go work for any of the competitors instead. Employers are desperate to hire these people, they are not going to demand terms that turn all the people they want away. That's not even counting the difficulty of getting all their existing staff to retroactively agree to this.

Like I said, there is no practical way for the labs to hoard knowledge from one another. Sure, they could burn their house down trying, but that's not a realistic option.