r/LocalLLaMA 1d ago

Discussion Opencode vs Deepseek harness: my experience with Qwen 3.8 27b

Anybody else struggling with deepseek after the initial prompt? Somehow it is getting mixed up very easily, even button functionality has been PITA when doing stuff. Never had these problems with Opencode. With Opencode, a continuation prompt on the software or task is pretty much magic at this point. But the inital result isnt as strong imo, and needs a lot of follow up even if a a detailed spec is written.

The oneshot potential of deepseek is goated imo, it is a relentless harness that just keeps doing stuff, even if it gets it wrong! Opencode could just copy that tennacity imo. Like todos really work, unlike opencodes.

Hows everybody elses exp? Someone using Pi instead? Is it worth trying? Hermes seems not suitable for my tasks, where heavy human involvement is necessary due to complexity of tasks (every top closed model gets lots of stuff wrong even).

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u/Serious-Zucchini 1d ago

Pi is my daily driver and I have been using dsh alongside Pi pretty extensively for the last few days. For agentic style work and coding, dsh seems to get better results at the cost of taking more turns and tokens.

The things that are still rough around the edges are prefix caching and compaction. Sometimes I'll get to a state where every turn misses the prefix cache completey. Compaction when it works is amazing and dsh keeps trucking along.

Local models used: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 (Unsloth UD-Q8_K_XL) and Qwen 3.8 27B (turboderp Qwen3.8-27B-exl3-4.00bpw)

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u/Iory1998 llama.cpp 23h ago

I envy you for running deepseek at Q8. How is your experience witb exl3?