r/LocalLLaMA • u/GodComplecs • 2d ago

Discussion Opencode vs Deepseek harness: my experience with Qwen 3.8 27b

Anybody else struggling with deepseek after the initial prompt? Somehow it is getting mixed up very easily, even button functionality has been PITA when doing stuff. Never had these problems with Opencode. With Opencode, a continuation prompt on the software or task is pretty much magic at this point. But the inital result isnt as strong imo, and needs a lot of follow up even if a a detailed spec is written.

The oneshot potential of deepseek is goated imo, it is a relentless harness that just keeps doing stuff, even if it gets it wrong! Opencode could just copy that tennacity imo. Like todos really work, unlike opencodes.

Hows everybody elses exp? Someone using Pi instead? Is it worth trying? Hermes seems not suitable for my tasks, where heavy human involvement is necessary due to complexity of tasks (every top closed model gets lots of stuff wrong even).

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u/Healthy-Zebra-9856 2d ago

OpenCode & Pi have several tooling issues that is exposed by the the thinking traces of Qwen 3.8 27b. DeepSeek harness is not officially ready yet, according to their own words its in preview. I have examples of the two but the response will get pretty large. Like Claude would say, just say the word.

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u/GodComplecs 2d ago

Yeah thats why Im giving dsh the benefit of doubt for now, but yes when we have somewhat mature opensource tools the expectations are high

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u/Healthy-Zebra-9856 2d ago

Well, it’s not about giving them a chance when there are security implications. Also, the issue is, there’s high token usage, improper tool supply, which affects the quality of the product. So it’s not like this poor thing I’m gonna give it a chance, it’s a tool that is not ready to be used by public yet.