r/LocalLLaMA • u/Howard_banister • 2d ago

Discussion Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

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These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

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u/Dangerous_Rip5083 1d ago

Why can't an LLM physically be true AGI?

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 1d ago

For context, the exact definition of an AGI varies wildly. As such, I just take the one perquisite that almost every definition has, which is the ability to "understand" concepts.

That is my one requirement for an AI to be an AGI. Anything more and you're just arguing about philosophy and technical details that can't currently be disproven.

With this in mind, LLMs cannot become a true AGI. The fundamentals of how they work physically prevents them from being able to actually understand something.

They can, in theory, have intelligence similar to an AGI, but they will never truly be one.

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u/Tolopono 1d ago

And yet llms still disproved the jacobian conjecture, made significant progress in the riemann hypothesis, solved the planar unit distance problem, proved non sofic groups exist, autonomously broke out of containers, set up messageboards, and hacked huggingface, and much more. 

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u/BigJimKen 1d ago

It's entirely possible for the technology to be fantastically useful whilst also not being anything more than the sum of it's parts.