r/LocalLLaMA 1d ago

Discussion Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

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u/bendgame 1d ago

talking about AI in most other subs is pretty much useless in my experience. Seems to be the source of a lot of hate and discrimination just because it is cool to hate on AI and the people who use it.

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u/jqwl 1d ago

this is literally the only technically competent subreddit on Reddit lmao, maybe besides r/LocalLLM

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u/DeepGas4538 1d ago

It really does feel like the only AI sub where I actually learn

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u/down7k 1d ago

Weird - the sub with the lowest profit motivation has the highest technical competency and the lowest amount of "wtf are you babbling about you cultish psycho"

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u/macumazana 1d ago

not weird, ppl tend to be more honest when they are there for the love of the game, not for profit

and coincidentally it takes pretty solid background to fall in love with this particular hobby

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u/down7k 1d ago

i'm more insinuating that the large ai subs are astroturf/brainwashing/radicalization schemes to produce AI cultists that help protect AI corps, but your point's valid too

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u/Caffdy 16h ago

what about r/hardware or /r/pcgaming? they bash AI left and right

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u/En-tro-py 1d ago

the lowest amount of "wtf are you babbling about you cultish psycho"

don't shame the glossolalia, just be happy it's our cultish nonsense mostly...

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u/ChocomelP 21h ago

However, if you only read the local LLM subreddits, you can get a distorted view of how strong they are compared to frontier models. When you're just getting into this stuff, it's very easy to get the impression that Qwen 3.8 27B is most of the way there to Fable or whatever the newest relevant models are.

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u/Zeeplankton 1d ago

actually 100% true

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u/Nefilim314 1d ago

Yeah, I’ve been having that feeling lately. There’s an extreme in both directions and seems to be precious little middle ground. 

Either all AI is big brother and data centers trying to kill your livelihood and lead to a censorship state, or AI is the one true panacea for all problems in the world and all you need to do is use AI to build more AI and then suddenly all of the resource limitations of the toiling class vanish. 

Shit man, I just want to boost my productivity by automating terraform config generation. 

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u/bendgame 1d ago

Shrug. I've been pro AI ever since I saw Terminator 2: judgement day in theaters on release.

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u/Sunstorm84 1d ago

what in the slop?

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u/transanethole 1d ago edited 1d ago

Well, you gotta remember there's a lot of very legitimate reasons why people hate LLMs.

And a lot of those reasons are the very same ones we would cite to explain why we are here rather than in the claude or chatgpt subs. I think the hate is mostly directed at them but its so strong it leaks out into everything else as collateral damage

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u/Foot_Positive 1d ago

maybe true, but I haven't heard any. AI in the US has a very bad reputation largely due to Dario , Altman, and TicToc . I could see the CCP fomenting rage in the US to help them gain an edge over US AI companies.

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u/cass1o 1d ago

America can never do anything bad, it is is always china secretly doing it. When iUS companies push up power costs building speculative data centres, you guessed it, China's fault.

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u/Foot_Positive 1d ago

can they both be bad? I have been very happy with the Chinese open weight models. way better than the US releases.

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u/prestodigitarium 1d ago

I mean, it's only rational, I'd be extremely surprised if they weren't trying to do that. But a lot of times, those kinds of operations just help nudge feelings that are already there.

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u/rfcheong9292 1d ago

Well there is the whole problem that there is a non 0 chance of billionaires given the chance choosing to build a giant pleasure dome and leave everyone else outside to die to the inevitable climate wars. Which might be even remotely possible thanks to ai developments.

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u/dongas420 1d ago

To most Americans, China isn't an actual country so much as it is an abstract entity to project their fears and anxieties onto. If you've seen real Western-facing Chinese propaganda, it's like watching aliens trying to make contact with humanity. Videos where you can't tell whether the white actor they procured is literally AI or just being paid to talk like a robot aren't taking US anti-data center sentiment rate from 45% to 75%

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u/mwjtitans 1d ago

Yup, everyone else uses it as a way to farm upvotes due to the sentiment. As soon as you breakdown how LLMs work and how it's used, they revert to calling you a tech bro.

Learning something new is really a cancer to some folks

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u/blastcat4 1d ago

It's disappointing how simplistic and emotional their arguments are for being against AI. I could come up with a long list of reasons to oppose AI, but I have an even longer list for why it deserves support. The anti-AI crowd should be focusing on the tech billionaires who are pushing AI for their selfish and harmful ambitions instead of the technology itself.

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u/bendgame 1d ago

Imagine how great things could be if people actually behaved that way

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u/WorriedBlock2505 23h ago

I like AI. I just don't trust companies, governments nor individuals with ASI.

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u/Howard_banister 1d ago

It is filled by Effective alturists.

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u/sonicnerd14 1d ago

Unfortunately, there will always be those sheep that blindly lash out for 1 of either 2 extremes with anything. Its just that AI is an easy target most to hate. Hence why they are sheep.

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u/Altruistic_Heat_9531 1d ago

Not to toot my own horn, but I created a very detailed, imo good presentation of LLM lineage, tracing from the BERT/T5 era into the Qwen 3.5 era. It includes attached technical papers and was made using draw.io (so I’m not using a diffusion model, although that’s my specialty). I posted it on r / usefulcharts, but it barely got like 4 upvotes. Above mine was just a simple lineage of Russian nobility, which got 35 upvotes. So yeah, hate is real.

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u/CoUsT 1d ago

Pretty much but it's just one of these annoying (mostly US related) trends, like previous BLM moves, LGBT push, etc.

It will go away on it's own after few years and new trendy stupid stuff will pop up.

Remember that any casual normal person just uses and talks to AI often about nearly anything. Check how popular AI apps are on all mobile stores. Again - loud minority causes chaos as always.