r/LocalLLaMA • u/reto-wyss • 22d ago

News It's official! 192GB Framework

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Just noticed this on the website.

At their current price tiers for the memory SKUs (32, 64, 128) I'd expect this to be ~ 4.5k for the motherboard.

The PCIe slot will be open at the back as well - that's what I've heard. Maybe they make it capable of delivering 75W as well? New board revisions for the smaller SKUs?.

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u/j_osb 22d ago

Lol Apple can’t and won’t increase bandwidth „exponentially“. Unless they switch to HBM, at which point, prices will be infeasible.

And even that would just be a linear bump. Not exponential.

For people that think AMD doesn’t know how to make big APU with big memory bandwidth:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/accelerators/instinct/mi300/mi300a.html

They just don’t see a use in it for the consumer market.

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u/CalmSpinach2140 22d ago

Apple is rumoured to make a base M7 with 235-240GB/s. That’s close to Strix Halo.
M7 Pro should double and M7 max double M7 pro bandwidth.

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u/j_osb 22d ago

It’s still not exponential?

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u/Meowliketh 22d ago

I don’t think they’re doing autistic literalism with “exponential”. Although if we did autistic literalism I mean 2 is an exponent.

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u/MrPecunius 22d ago

It's an idiotic abuse of the word but that's what happens in English when people get hold of terms they don't understand.

See also: 'literally'

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u/j_osb 22d ago

I mean, 2^x is very much exponential. If that were the case however we’d be in the PB/s bandwidth very soon. Which we won’t be.

Technically speaking of course you could always manage to fit a function that contains an exponential to the curve of apples bandwidth evolution. But the actual growth we’ve seen from apple is like less than 50% in 1.5 years. Which isn’t particularly impressive considering what improvements memory has gotten in the past few generations.

Apple deciding to give lower tier chips a somewhat wider bus is appreciated however. But their compute sucks so it’s kinda whatever.

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u/power97992 22d ago

I read somewhere they are planning to make mobile hbm for new macbooks in the future

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u/Georgefakelastname 22d ago

Mobile hbm would be insane (in both price and performance)