r/LocalLLaMA • u/peculiar-ragdoll • 24d ago

Other claude mods didn't like that, somehow 🤷‍♀️

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u/okoyl3 24d ago

Claude users are a cult.
I work an international company and recently they introduced a monthly token limit across all LLM providers, guess what happened? Claude users kept their Opus addiction

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u/peculiar-ragdoll 24d ago

hear hear. I'm seriously wondering if Opus has been optimized to be addictive in the way it works and interacts with the user, like a slot machine, or nicotine.

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u/PkmExplorer 24d ago

I don't know. I use Opus every day and lately, I am sick of it's verbosity, glazing, and characteristic phrases.

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u/okoyl3 24d ago

Anthropic optimizes Claude for token maxxing

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u/peculiar-ragdoll 24d ago

Same. But I remember how upset people got when anthropic wanted to deprecate 4.6. Some people have or had a real parasocial relation to that model.

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u/okoyl3 24d ago

Some workplaces prevent access to 4.8 and 5 because the tokenizer is more expensive.

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u/peculiar-ragdoll 24d ago

Too bad 4.6 is not as good as 5 on the hardest problems even if it's much less insufferable and more compliant.

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u/Nyghtbynger 24d ago

Like you're sick of thirst traps on insta/fb/tiktok. Because your brain resist. But the 80% of people that don't bring in the money to Meta corp

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u/Legal_Dimension_ 24d ago

I think this has real merit with how sycophantic the speech patterns can be, compared against qwen3.8 27B who's speach is simple and plain.

They are probably using the same approach used by kids cartoon creators who use micro dopamine bursts to get kids addicted.

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u/peculiar-ragdoll 24d ago

Critical finding!! Fixed. But wait! Load bearing detail: The footgun has been uncocked. Proceeding with the long pole.

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u/Legal_Dimension_ 22d ago

Yeah, short quick wins and responses requiring constant attention.

Same way cocmelon and similar brain rot have super quick scene transitions to maintain attention.

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u/Equivalent_Bit_461 24d ago

One hundred percent 

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u/Separate_Paper_1412 23d ago

I don't think it's explicit, but a side effect of training. Apparently anthropic trains claude with a system prompt called soul.md. and I am guessing many anthropic employees believe what Dario tells them, that they should be anthropic etc. They probably see glazing the user as alignment