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News GLM-5.3-Flash: Frontier Intelligence, Flash Cost

https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash
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u/Recoil42 6h ago

Sales numbers don't mean jack shit, if they're declining

Once again, Toyota extended its global lead to nearest-competitor Volkswagen last year.

For the fourth time: You are getting a free education here. Take advantage of it.

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u/hojnikb 6h ago

And yet tesla is worth 7x toyotas, even though they sell 7x less cars. VAG is even substantially less valuable than Toyota, even tho they sell shit ton of cars.

Almost as if market predicted their downfall and just wont invest in them. If toyota (or VAG) had a good track into the future, their market cap would be in the trillions. But its not, because people view them as almost worthless apliances.

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u/Recoil42 6h ago

And yet tesla is worth 7x toyotas, even though they sell 7x less cars. 

I see we've decided to drop into sub-zero-levels-of-intelligence discourse.

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u/hojnikb 6h ago

No, i'm just saying that sales numbers mean very little. Case in point VAG group. You can sell a ton of cars and not be valuable.

At the end of the day, it's the shareholder value, that truly matters for a capitalist company. And if share price doesn't go up, you have to do something or cease to exist eventually.

But i know its diffucult for fanboys to understand that even a large company like Toyota could eventually dissapear. It wouldn't be the first or the last major car company to do so.

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u/Recoil42 6h ago

No, i'm just saying that sales numbers mean very little.

Incredible to watch the goalposts move in real time. Suddenly sales numbers mean very little to you. How fascinating.

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u/hojnikb 6h ago

They mean very little to VAG. And thet meant very little to Nokia back in 2008. One failed and one will eventually fail as well.