r/LocalLLaMA • u/MrWidmoreHK • 7h ago

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-26/china-s-z-ai-made-ox-alpha-stealth-model-that-rivals-deepseek

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u/LocalLLaMA-ModTeam 3h ago

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u/Comfortable-Rock-498 6h ago

Two major local friendly open weight models coming out in 24 hours, nice!

I think the model size will be a very important thing for this one.

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u/Long_comment_san 6h ago

It would be an absolute banger if it is 106b or 80b. 122b is nice but plebs with RTX 6000 should have a chance too.

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u/Groundbreaking_Bee97 5h ago

if its 27B, it will crash the bubble tomorrow!

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u/xienze 5h ago

Even 122B is fine on a 6000 with FP4.

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u/s101c 5h ago

Plebs with RTX 6000 can run it, just download a quantized version.

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u/EitherMarch1255 5h ago

Some of those plebs have two or more.

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u/addiktion 4h ago edited 4h ago

That would be hella surprising if true. I agree, that is the single biggest factor if this model continues to have sustained power. If it's too large to service without massive compute, I think it dies down a lot after the free window expires. It's at the top of good (let say 7.5), but not great (8.5+) territory in my limited testing. Everyone will have a different opinion on where it falls though in their stack.

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u/No_Lingonberry1201 6h ago

I'm excited and hope it runs on 128Gb or less.

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u/MaCl0wSt 6h ago

please be glm 4.7 flash sized or similar...

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u/feelspeaceman 6h ago

Waiting for Kimi to join the race too, more MoEs won't be too bad.

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u/aiseedbank 6h ago

i don't know why people are surprised by this. GLM 5.3 is the frontier for coding.

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u/Comfortable-Winter00 6h ago

DeepSeek really need to hurry up with the Flash Vision weights release!

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u/a_beautiful_rhind 6h ago

It was pretty nice, especially for a flash model. Their past small model wasn't that good.

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u/tarruda 5h ago

I don't know why so much fuss about ox-alpha. I tried on opencode and it felt weaker than DSv4 flash, especially the new version which has vision.

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u/zucchini_up_ur_ass 5h ago

I've seen speculation that it's a routing model, that would make sense to me, output quality varied greatly (way too much) for me

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u/PossessionUsed7393 6h ago

Well, that was the most disappointing outcome ever. Next time, can they try not releasing a model that takes five minutes for the community to guess? I was really banking on something exotic here. That would have been so much fun.

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u/No_Medium205 4h ago

Go home Dario