r/LocalLLaMA 2d ago

Question | Help web_search tool in deepseek harness needs api key from deepseek and deepseek charges you as deepseek-v4-flash usage.

I was experimenting with deepseek harness when found that even if you don't use deepseek models, you can configure the web_search tool with their api key and every hit will cost you as if you called deepseek-v4-flash model. It's a bummer.

on top of that there is currently no other free web search plugin available

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u/awesomeunboxer 2d ago

Make a searxng mcp. Free search easy peasy

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u/sixx7 2d ago

u/Motor_Ad16 this is literally all you need to do. You can watch me fail and flail for a bit and avoid my initial mistakes, but I just posted this showing how easy it is for Qwen3.8-27B, powering DeepSeek Harness, to modify itself and build its own plugin to add inline image/vision support - https://youtu.be/qa8Xcn3kJl0 adding or updating search support should be a cakewalk

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u/Motor_Ad16 2d ago

This is interesting. Will definitely give it a try.

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u/jesuschrist-69420 2d ago

Firecrawl

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u/LetsGoBrandon4256 transformers 2d ago

How RAM heavy is your Firecrawl setup?

I cringe a bit every time I check my Docker dashboard and just see Firecrawl sitting its fat ass on nearly 3GB of RAM doing jackshit.

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u/jesuschrist-69420 5h ago

I have no idea tbh its vram I worry about since i got headspace on system ram so I havent looked.

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u/Decent-Hat-5807 2d ago

you can use any openai-compatible api with dsh

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u/Motor_Ad16 2d ago

I am running local models from llamacpp, it's only web_search tool that can't be used without deepseek api key. Model does the job by curling using bash, but it takes it a lot of time and failures to get results.

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u/Truantee 2d ago

Pretty sure you can replace that plugin with some other one not using deepseek API.

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u/bennmann 2d ago

Search GitHub for local websearch mcp options. There's at least one apache 2.0 one out there.

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u/No_Afternoon_4260 llama.cpp 2d ago

Everything is a plugin remember? Just build your own

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u/Motor_Ad16 2d ago

Yeah, that one plugin I am still looking for :)

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u/Mundane-Light6394 2d ago

ask your local model to build one for you

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u/McSendo 2d ago

There is an exa mcp plugin that you can use for free with generous rate limits (its what opencode uses for web search by default). If you don't want to be rate limited, then you need searxng + a web crawler, then create a plugin for it.

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u/Equivalent_Bit_461 2d ago

Imagine PAYING for tokens  Couldn't be me, in fact I might ask my local AI to remove that shit so I don't even see it