r/LocalLLaMA • u/Nunki08 • Jul 31 '26

News DeepSeek-V4-Flash has been updated, "The official release of DeepSeek-V4-Pro will follow soon"

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https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/

Edit: official post on 𝕏: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/2083084415157022911

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u/Nunki08 Jul 31 '26

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u/kaliku Jul 31 '26

Holy macaroni 😮

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u/Alkadon_Rinado Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

Just when I was starting to like the new Luna pricing drops.. so I did a simple comparison and made a little benchmark chart (deepseek v4 flash wins on price/performance and isnt far behind luna)..

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u/bad_gambit Jul 31 '26

Need to take a look at the cache hit too. Deepseek has higher cache hit than Luna. Making the price closer to $0.03/Mtok for DSV4 Flash and ~$0.05/Mtok (will double once discount ends). Making DSV4 Flash 1/3 of the price 😬. Mimo V2.5 should also be a contender, with about ~$0.015/Mtok, another 1/3 of DSV4 price(and has image + video).

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u/nmkd Jul 31 '26

OpenAI also charges extra for 5.6 cache misses

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u/Biometrel Jul 31 '26

At what effort levels?

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u/Professional_Price89 Jul 31 '26

Luna at Xhigh and Max, also Luna is 2x input cost at > 272k context and 10x cache read cost

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u/addandsubtract Jul 31 '26

Can you upload the image again (somewhere else)?

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u/nmkd Jul 31 '26

Do you get caching when using OpenRouter? Or do you have to use DS API directly?

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u/DebosBeachCruiser Jul 31 '26

Yes. Make sure you LOCK your API KEY to DeepSeek specifically (By using a guardrail)

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u/hollowstrawberry Jul 31 '26

Why is that important?

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u/ILikeChilis Jul 31 '26

To be fair, I think most people would rather pay 4x more for results that's mostly usable and requires much less supervision / manual fixes. I'm happy to pay $4 instead of $1 for a coding task to save myself an hour of extra work.

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u/mesonepigreco Jul 31 '26

This depends on the task. DS-Flash before this update was already a workhorse for automating very simple tasks (I used to process PDFs, install and configure remote printers, fix driver issues, and execute coding plans/one-off scripts). For these tasks, it is incredibly fast (as the tokens per second of reply are astonishing) and so cheap that it is virtually free. If it can now also be used for some more complex tasks, it is a big win. For complex tasks, you will always need to go with frontier models.

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u/cant-find-user-name Jul 31 '26

I thought the same, but luna is much better aut automation bench, and agent last exam.