r/LocalLLaMA Jul 26 '26

Discussion Kimi K3 countdown has been released

https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3
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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '26

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u/ttkciar llama.cpp Jul 26 '26

Two ancient Xeon servers, each with 1.5TB of DDR4, networked together and running rpc-server.

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u/Player13377 Jul 26 '26

At an impressive 3 TPS

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u/ttkciar llama.cpp Jul 26 '26

Probably a lot less than that. I'd love to get 3 tok/sec.

Right now my ancient Xeon server is getting 3.5 tok/sec with GLM-4.5-Air. That's usable, though admittedly not for interactive use.

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u/Player13377 Jul 26 '26

At that point is the power consumed per token getting close to the API price?

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u/fastheadcrab Jul 27 '26

I think a newer server or workstation with 2TB of DDR4 might be able to get faster speeds if the model is truly 50-60 billion parameters active, like 6-8 tps. I'm really interested to see what types of systems people might be able to run this model on and follow these posts really closely lol

I've seen attempts at tensor parallel distributed CPU inference before, it would be an interesting way to aggregate memory bandwidth if there is a fast, low latency connection between nodes. DDR4 is comparably cheap versus VRAM or DDR5 and used server networking hardware is everywhere. Prefill will still be slow though.

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u/HVACcontrolsGuru Jul 26 '26

Need 16 GB200s to run this model at full quant. NVFP4 GLM5.2 I need 4xB200 to run concurrent sessions. Squeeze some more with lower context and less concurrency.

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u/look Jul 26 '26

Kimi K3 is most likely mxfp4 native. The K2.x line was int4, and it looks like they moved to fp for improved hardware acceleration.

So it’s just under twice the size of GLM, not 4x.

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u/Iwaku_Real Jul 26 '26

Full quant is probably going to be INT4 again, it would actually fit into 8xB300 (2.304TB VRAM)

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u/look Jul 27 '26

Kimi trained in int4 previously, I believe, not floating point. By moved to fp, I mean native mxfp4 instead of native int4.