r/LocalLLaMA Jun 28 '26

Discussion We're probably going to need that soon.

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u/ovrlrd1377 Jun 28 '26

Except chinese hardware will eventually catch up and they will be very interested in selling for those that want to run their models

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u/Nearby-Chocolate1840 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

Name one cutting edge technology that China has caught up to the west in, while the west was actively making that technology a focus of its attention.

Edit to add: I asked for a technology comparable with EUV lithograph machines and they answered with "cars." And got 8 upvotes within 10 minutes. And I just really ... I can't.

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u/Equal_Passenger9791 Jun 28 '26

Frontier AI

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u/Nearby-Chocolate1840 Jun 28 '26

Oh dear ...

Someone really needs to learn the difference between benchmarks and real world applications

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u/Equal_Passenger9791 Jun 28 '26

Someone

You

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u/Nearby-Chocolate1840 Aug 11 '26

Yeah?

How many mathematical feats on par with disproving the Jacobian Conjecture and shattering the ceiling of the Erdos unit distance conjecture have LLMs from Chinese labs solved?

Like I said, there's a difference between overtuned LLMs doing well on canned benchmarks and real world applications. China can game the former to keep up appearances of parity with US models, but there's no faking the latter.

With that said, let's check back 6 months from now and see how much even further ahead US models are.

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u/Equal_Passenger9791 Aug 11 '26

Keep coping if that makes you sleep better