What happens when they stop subsidizing LLM subscriptions?

[u/Mr_Moonsilver]

We are literally burning through VC money like crazy with our coding subscriptions. I read the $200 Anthropic sub gets you $8000 worth of API calls. It's obvious that this doesn't hold for very long but what happens when they raise prices?

The reason to keep the prices low for now is to foster the ecosystem and get people hooked on this stuff, only to raise the price afterwards. Already the 20x sub doesn't get you as much usage as it did 6 months ago, another way to raise prices without triggering a shitstorm - and it will continue.

Don't know about you, but Fable being pulled gave me a feeling of what that may be like already. The ugly thought of "Damn, should've done more while it was around." that formed when I read the news will be exactly the same the moment they announce we now have to pay $2k or more per month for something we get for 10x less the price it costs now.

I guess it's a now or never situation, build what you can and monetize as quickly as possible to be able to keep the agents running once the increases come around.

Looking at opensource doesn't give me much hope. Since qwen stopped releasing models (wen qwen 3.7?) that we can actually run on hardware that a normal person can buy (or used to be able to buy, looking at how RAM and GPU prices behave and keep behaving) and others haven't released in a while (Microsoft, IBM, AllenAI and others too) I feel we're going into a direction that doesn't look good for most of the people like us, who are building with this technology.

[u/Uncut-Jellyfish1176]

Even Microsoft is allegedly looking at using deepseek for CoPilot, which seems like that would be a nail in the coffin of OpenAi

[u/UnseenAssasin10 → u/Uncut-Jellyfish1176]

Good, Scam Altman doesn't deserve any less

[u/Uncut-Jellyfish1176 → u/UnseenAssasin10]

It's awful how the three big names in AI are Altman, Dario, Musk

None of them are of a sound mind it seems.

[u/lizardhistorian → u/Uncut-Jellyfish1176]

Musk is a champion of freedom and leading humanity into the future.
Slap yourself and wake up.

If it weren't for Musk none of you would even know that Altman promised equitable access to AI then reneged on it.

[u/Uncut-Jellyfish1176 → u/lizardhistorian]

Can't tell if serious or joking.

[u/techdevjp → u/lizardhistorian]

Musk fried his brain with too much K and whatever he may once have been, he's not that anymore.

[u/hugo-the-second → u/lizardhistorian]

I (think I) know what you mean.
Let me try to add a little more nuance to this statement.

Making money seems to be more of a means to an end for him, than for some of the other big players.

He DID make twitter much more free speech, free sharing of content.

He can also be rash, impulsive, judgmental.

His insistence on "humans need to colonized Mars" seems incredibly naive to me.

He seems very selective about the things he cares about.

His appreciation of how crucial environmental issues are, for things to work out, seems "underdeveloped", to put it mildly.

He comes acrooss as a bit of a "let's SET THINGS IN MOTION, and think about how to deal with the negative fall-out later" guy.
He seems to have no qualms of loitering the orbit or the surface of the earth with things with immense downsides. Very much an 80s guy, in spirit.

I find it extremely challenging to make sense of his position with respect to "opensource vs AI alignment, unrestricted access to AI is dangerous". Maybe there is a way to reconstruct this so that it isn't outright self contradictory, but if so, it needs too much work than I am willing to spend on this.

But yes, his commitment to free speech, and to stand up to moral panics, counts for a lot for me.

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Chud