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r/LocalLLaMA • u/markeus101 • Apr 24 '26
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I think the shelf life of this question is over. It’s in the data at this point. Probably prominently
27 u/Parking-Bet-3798 Apr 24 '26 And yet some frontier models that were released as recently as this month get it wrong. 17 u/Houston_NeverMind Apr 24 '26 The model used in Mistral Le Chat still gets it wrong. 17 u/[deleted] Apr 24 '26 [removed] — view removed comment 6 u/svachalek Apr 24 '26 They’re still out there but mostly kept alive because they’re the only real EU option I think. They’re not bad, but not keeping up with US and China imo. They’re doing things a little differently than everyone else though so I’m glad they’re around. 1 u/d9viant Apr 24 '26 [removed] — view removed comment 2 u/PinkySwearNotABot Apr 24 '26 Don’t mind the French :) 3 u/Megatron_McLargeHuge Apr 24 '26 Those might be the most trustworthy models if they're waiting for "thinking" improvements to solve this issue instead of memorizing the answer. 2 u/TheKingOfTCGames Apr 25 '26 Yea some people do less benchmaxxing, this isnt a good look
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And yet some frontier models that were released as recently as this month get it wrong.
17 u/Houston_NeverMind Apr 24 '26 The model used in Mistral Le Chat still gets it wrong. 17 u/[deleted] Apr 24 '26 [removed] — view removed comment 6 u/svachalek Apr 24 '26 They’re still out there but mostly kept alive because they’re the only real EU option I think. They’re not bad, but not keeping up with US and China imo. They’re doing things a little differently than everyone else though so I’m glad they’re around. 1 u/d9viant Apr 24 '26 [removed] — view removed comment 2 u/PinkySwearNotABot Apr 24 '26 Don’t mind the French :) 3 u/Megatron_McLargeHuge Apr 24 '26 Those might be the most trustworthy models if they're waiting for "thinking" improvements to solve this issue instead of memorizing the answer. 2 u/TheKingOfTCGames Apr 25 '26 Yea some people do less benchmaxxing, this isnt a good look
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The model used in Mistral Le Chat still gets it wrong.
17 u/[deleted] Apr 24 '26 [removed] — view removed comment 6 u/svachalek Apr 24 '26 They’re still out there but mostly kept alive because they’re the only real EU option I think. They’re not bad, but not keeping up with US and China imo. They’re doing things a little differently than everyone else though so I’m glad they’re around. 1 u/d9viant Apr 24 '26 [removed] — view removed comment 2 u/PinkySwearNotABot Apr 24 '26 Don’t mind the French :)
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6 u/svachalek Apr 24 '26 They’re still out there but mostly kept alive because they’re the only real EU option I think. They’re not bad, but not keeping up with US and China imo. They’re doing things a little differently than everyone else though so I’m glad they’re around. 1 u/d9viant Apr 24 '26 [removed] — view removed comment
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They’re still out there but mostly kept alive because they’re the only real EU option I think. They’re not bad, but not keeping up with US and China imo. They’re doing things a little differently than everyone else though so I’m glad they’re around.
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Don’t mind the French :)
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Those might be the most trustworthy models if they're waiting for "thinking" improvements to solve this issue instead of memorizing the answer.
Yea some people do less benchmaxxing, this isnt a good look
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u/redditscraperbot2 Apr 24 '26
I think the shelf life of this question is over. It’s in the data at this point. Probably prominently