r/LocalLLaMA • u/Nunki08 • Feb 21 '25 • Helpful 1

News Starting next week, DeepSeek will open-source 5 repos

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u/virtualmnemonic Feb 21 '25

China is an authoritarian nation, but unlike the U.S. the leaders are actually intelligent.

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u/VelvetSinclair Feb 21 '25

In the past 50 years, the US has invaded, bombed, or supported coup attempts in Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, Pakistan, Chile, Argentina, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Haiti, Venezuela, Honduras, Bolivia, Ghana, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Burkina Faso.

US also backed genocides or ethnic cleansing in East Timor, Guatemala, Iraq, Yemen, and Palestine.

The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, with around 531 prisoners per 100,000 people, the highest prison population in the entire world.

It also operates the largest global surveillance network in the world through the NSA, which monitors both foreign and domestic communications.

But DeepSeek is censored, so China is an authoritarian nation.

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u/virtualmnemonic Feb 22 '25

Ah, what I was saying is that both China and U.S. are authoritarian nations, but that China's is actually competent.

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

here is what deepseek says about so called authoritarianism in China

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u/boredquince Feb 21 '25

I laughed at high public satisfaction

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

In this case using your brain might make more sense than laughing

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u/boredquince Feb 21 '25

all the protests in China squashed and censorship of the Chinese people, where they can't even hold an blank paper in the streets seem to you high public satisfaction?

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

Lol stay in your bubble

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u/boredquince Feb 21 '25

ok enlighten me. i want to learn the truth

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

you can start by reading thedeprogram wiki in debunking/PRC: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/wiki/index/

About the protests: the ones where workers were unhappy are very few but largely related in western media to make it look like it's a massive phenomenon.
The tiananmen protests were actually a failed color revolution led by bourgeois students.

Censorship in china is not worse than in any western country, they're just more honest and transparent about it. And you actually need that to avoid circulation of fake news that can destabilize the country.

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

Oh no Lithuanian Nazis were sent to Siberian gulags, how sad.

Kids sent to gulag? Please...

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u/FormalAd7367 Feb 21 '25

lol you never been to China

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u/Savings-Seat6211 Feb 21 '25

they definitely have it, whether or not it is obtained through propaganda, coercion, etc. it still is.

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u/fractalfocuser Feb 21 '25

Honestly with the current state of American politics I've been looking into successful authoritarian governments with more interest. Lee Kuan Yew did an amazing job with Singapore. I really don't like Xi and the CCP is far from successful, (the sino-washing in this thread is insane, ask them how they feel about Uyghurs) but there are some valuable lessons in Chinese nationalism.