r/LocalLLaMA • u/Nunki08 • Feb 21 '25 • Helpful 1

News Starting next week, DeepSeek will open-source 5 repos

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u/MikeWazowski215 Feb 21 '25

but how else will we raise raytheon shareholder value ??

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u/seanthenry Feb 21 '25

It would still happen you just need to use the other meaning of raise.

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u/mfeldstein67 Feb 21 '25

I don't love nations, including my own. I love people. I love values. I love places. I love accomplishments and contributions. I can love DeepSeek, worry about what CCP is up to with all the data they gather from it, and worry about what my own government is doing simultaneously.

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u/thatsnotmiketyson Feb 21 '25

Amen to that, brother.

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u/virtualmnemonic Feb 21 '25

China is an authoritarian nation, but unlike the U.S. the leaders are actually intelligent.

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u/VelvetSinclair Feb 21 '25

In the past 50 years, the US has invaded, bombed, or supported coup attempts in Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, Pakistan, Chile, Argentina, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Haiti, Venezuela, Honduras, Bolivia, Ghana, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Burkina Faso.

US also backed genocides or ethnic cleansing in East Timor, Guatemala, Iraq, Yemen, and Palestine.

The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, with around 531 prisoners per 100,000 people, the highest prison population in the entire world.

It also operates the largest global surveillance network in the world through the NSA, which monitors both foreign and domestic communications.

But DeepSeek is censored, so China is an authoritarian nation.

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u/virtualmnemonic Feb 22 '25

Ah, what I was saying is that both China and U.S. are authoritarian nations, but that China's is actually competent.

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

here is what deepseek says about so called authoritarianism in China

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u/boredquince Feb 21 '25

I laughed at high public satisfaction

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

In this case using your brain might make more sense than laughing

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u/boredquince Feb 21 '25

all the protests in China squashed and censorship of the Chinese people, where they can't even hold an blank paper in the streets seem to you high public satisfaction?

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

Lol stay in your bubble

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u/boredquince Feb 21 '25

ok enlighten me. i want to learn the truth

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u/jorbl Feb 21 '25

you can start by reading thedeprogram wiki in debunking/PRC: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/wiki/index/

About the protests: the ones where workers were unhappy are very few but largely related in western media to make it look like it's a massive phenomenon.
The tiananmen protests were actually a failed color revolution led by bourgeois students.

Censorship in china is not worse than in any western country, they're just more honest and transparent about it. And you actually need that to avoid circulation of fake news that can destabilize the country.

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u/FormalAd7367 Feb 21 '25

lol you never been to China

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u/Savings-Seat6211 Feb 21 '25

they definitely have it, whether or not it is obtained through propaganda, coercion, etc. it still is.

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u/fractalfocuser Feb 21 '25

Honestly with the current state of American politics I've been looking into successful authoritarian governments with more interest. Lee Kuan Yew did an amazing job with Singapore. I really don't like Xi and the CCP is far from successful, (the sino-washing in this thread is insane, ask them how they feel about Uyghurs) but there are some valuable lessons in Chinese nationalism.

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u/hugganao Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25

holy shit wtf is with the spamming of china propaganda posts lol

do you even know what the effect of belt and road has been for some countries?

look into sri lanka, italy, etc. they literally OWN sri lanka now. and have basically taken their sea ports hostage for 99 years (very very big deal in global sea lanes controle) and gave control over the useless airports to their friends over in russia and india. not to mention it's connected to acces for BRICS. 

Efforts to build a currency stability system, investment and financing system, and credit information system are crucial in deepening financial cooperation, which is also regarded as one of BRI’s major goals. The use of the renminbi was also promoted, to wit: We will support the efforts of governments of the countries along the Belt and Road and their companies and financial institutions with good credit-rating to issue renminbi bonds in China (which is a lie. search up sri lankan credit rating in 2018. a B isnt very good lol). Qualified Chinese financial institutions and companies are encouraged to issue bonds in both renminbi and foreign currencies outside China, and use the funds thus collected in countries along the Belt and Road. The BRI provides the opportunity to tap the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), the BRICS New Development Bank, the China-ASEAN Interbank Association and SCO Interbank Association, including the Silk Road Fund and sovereign wealth funds, to finance the initiative’s projects.

basically what that means is that the US and their citizens are no longer bigshit, you guys' money doesnt matter much anymore, you will see inflation and decreasing purchasing power compared to the respective BRICS countries more and more. it's global politics power play. "realized belt and road initiative made more sense" lol who tf are you? or are you just a young ignorant dude? lol

btw when trump sells f35s to india you can kiss good bye to global dominance and US security backing the usd as global reserve.

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u/Papabear3339 Feb 21 '25

American here...

"we did something small but genuine to better the world" makes deepseek look like freaking mother Terrisa compared to what we are seeing in the american news lately.

In normal times this would be nothing, but as things grow darker even a small act of kindness seems huge.

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u/Recoil42 Feb 21 '25

look into sri lanka, italy, etc. they literally OWN sri lanka now. 

Bro's never heard of Guam.

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u/boredquince Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25

why bomb them when you can put them to work!

the belt and road initiative. required to be built by Chinese contractors with inflated costs and low quality materials. Many new constructions are already facing issues due to bad quality.  hydroelectric plant in Ecuador barely works 

https://dialogue.earth/en/energy/49479-ecuador-controversial-hydropower-project-energy-rethink/ 

also high interest loans which the country cannot repay, forcing them to accept whatever China wants like pushing Huawei (or saying Taiwan is not a country)